Bible Contradictions

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    practices could involve works.
    Practices can mean chanting verses as well.
    And I already admitted to another that practices could involve works. But it's not set to all religions.

    Adversary? Wow, I'm sorry for you.
     
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  2. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

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    And if someone had to learn one thing...then that would be it. It's important to know God put Noah in charge of his creation.

    When you read and study the Bible, you learn more. This is why it's important to read the Bible to grow as a Christian.
     
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  3. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    We don't need to be indoctrinating our children with this crap. You'd be singing a different tune if it were Islam. The 1st Amendment explicitly states that the government will not pass any law respecting any establishment of religion. It does not promote any religion in public schools nor should it. You can try to put this in a sweet and innocent light, but the law is clear. Keep your religion to yourself.
     
  4. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    You're trying to suggest that christianity influenced this. Sorry, you need you try to sell that story to someone else.
     
  5. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    Odd that the central figure of christianity wasn't even christian. He was Hebrew.
     
  6. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    And a 2nd failure ensued.
    Man is just as sinful now as before the flood.
    Why follow an all powerful, all knowing creature, that has failed in it's experiment 2X?
    Something all knowing knew before hand mankinds failure.
    And something all powerful, should have been able to correct it or not create it in the 1st place.
     
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  7. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    How can a child know any better, they are wired to believe adults and especially their parents and will believe what is told to them unless they are very much into self-education and reason their way out of the allure of faith which is by its nature blind and not evidence based or people would give real evidence for religious claims. Faith is what you get when you have no evidence or rational proof. I'm happy with - I don't know. Religious people largely when they don't know plug in some mystical divine force at work and go - My [insert mythological being or beings] did it. Its no secret many Jewish people leave the faith becoming secularized and a good number atheists the faith encourages education and learning the tools that erode and destroy faith with reason its enemy and the light of our civilization is reason.

    If a deity is out there and wanted us to know him or her, its not hard, show yourself to people openly and do things for us worthy of respect and people would respect it, but no beings care to come forward so why believe without evidence?
     
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    Here is one to chew on:


    Matthew 7:6
    6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
     
  9. Matt84

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    When people attend religious services, they're still engaging in an indirect battle of "my god is better than your god".

    This diety must be extremely busy because it has so much PR personnel reprsenting all of these religions. For 4.5 million years it has not been seen in public. Why is that?
     
  10. Matt84

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    I can do you one better.

    Matthew 5:17-20

    Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
     
  11. Arjay51

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    Do you also ask the magical bunny down the hall for assistance? Just as likely to have an effect.
     
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    And this "faith" that you so highly value tells you to do these "works".

    Faith is actually about promoting what is not there.
     
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    Some have trouble having faith in "magic bunnies", but they have faith in magic smart phones. If people can have faith in a cordless magic box that talks, talking a talking snake is possible too.

    The "God particle" keeps mass of atoms together. No one knows how, it's MAGIC! No one has seen "dark matter" but they're sure it's there. Same with "dark energy", MAGIC!

    Funny, every time silly humans think they have it figured out, God laughs and says, "Not so fast grasshopper!"
     
  14. Matt84

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    Faith in a smartphone? Is this user serious? You're equating faith in a supernatural being that has not been proven...............to a smartphone? Please take this mulligan and start over.
     
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    There is nothing new...everything has already been invented...it's just that there are those that can go to Akasha, like Einstein, Galileo and all the other inventors. All music, comes from Akasha, and everything else that exists, or ever will exist...it's already written down in the "Hall of records". More and more people are learning how to go there to get information, that's why advancement has picked up speed so much in the last hundred years. 150 years ago information doubled only every 50 years....50 years ago it doubled every 20 years....now it doubles every month...in two years it will double every two days. God doesn't give humanity the info until we are ready for it.
     
  16. Arjay51

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    It is simply that smart phones and dark holes have been scientifically proven means of existing. This gawd of yours does not. Provide proof and we can talk.
     
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    If "everything: has already been invented, why are new inventions found everyday?

    BTW, have you ever been to this "hall of records"? Or is this just another falsehood that you have invented?
     
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    Without seeing what is not there....how can you have any hope for anything?
     
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    Oh, you can have hope. Trusting in an invisible, unprovable entity provide it for you is just silly.
     
  20. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Matthew 7:6 is the ethnocentric character Yeshua calling the Gentiles dogs and swine. As typical of his ilk he considered Gentiles to be just animals, only fit for slavery, and not human like he was.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    He sounds like he's an Edgar Cayce fan. https://www.edgarcayce.org/the-readings/ancient-mysteries/
     
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    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just because one does not believe in claimed gods does not mean one can't have hope in an unknown God/intelligence.

    Honestly though, IMO, by evidence of the world, I can't imagine a warm loving creator that cares for any life forms. I'm content with the possibilities when not knowing, then just non-existence at death.
     
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    You are sickening in your warped interpretations.....take the time and read the Book of Jonah. Then come back and tell me what God thinks when a smug Hebrew does not except Grace given to Gentiles. God loves all of mankind equally and Grace is the free gift all one has to do is accept.
     
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    Of course dogs and swine represent unclean animals. Jesus cast the demons out of the possessed and sent them into the swine who could readily receive them. I believe, Wyrd, you could receive them as well. You seem to be ready and waiting.
     
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    You assume too much. I do not want the government promoting any religion, or atheism. And I have always posted that attitude. If the govt promotes Christianity today, then tomorrow when the political and social winds change the government can ban Christianity and promote some other religion.

    There is nothing wrong with educating people, including having comparative religion classes in high school. Religion can be taught from an objective, unbiased position as if it was history or philosophy. Its taught in many schools in that manner.

    On islam, if Americans had attended a course of comparative religion and learned about islam, there would be no pro-islam element in the USA today, there would be no push to rush in masses of muslims. Educated people are less susceptible to propaganda.
     
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