Biblical Prophecy Fulfillment and Soon Fulfillment Updates

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  1. Watchman

    Watchman New Member

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    These videos are incredible, dealing with everything from the new pope francis, obama, the blood moons, the Harbinger, The Mystery of the 7th Shemitah, and the end times.

    Really intriguing and fascinating.

    The HOLY BIBLE really is a miracle and wonder Book.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5dyEnZFu0w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Qzg7op0-M

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cq340CtbW4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx_3C4JKh-w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VsKQQc57IQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFCQvvXSwx4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cq340CtbW4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Y2ZaHCVfg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO_Sk9CzFkY

    If the 7 year tribulation period that the HOLY BIBLE prophesies has not begun yet, it soon will, at the signing of the peace treaty between Israel and Palestine.

    Remember, the pope meeting with Israeli and Palestinian Presidents at the Vatican was unprecedented in the history of the world and the church. Biblical Prophecy is being fulfilled.

    Repent, and believe on the LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, and you shall be saved. JESUS is the ONLY WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. NO man comes to the FATHER, but through HIM.

    The end is upon us. Be Ready. Are you ready to meet the LORD?
     
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    The end of a significant seven-year cycle and a rare fourth blood moon...
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    A Shaking? What Shemitah Means for Israel, US
    Sunday, September 13, 2015 -- For Israel and the Jewish people, the High Holy Days this year mark the end of a significant seven-year cycle and a rare fourth blood moon. Some believe that combination could have a huge impact on the world.
     
  3. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Are you ready to be as wrong as Christians have been for 2,000 years before you?
     
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    God loves the poorly educated.
     
  5. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    The Bible is very clear about the start of the end times, and those events have not occurred. The key signal event is when the Temple is rebuilt (being the third Temple) and sacrifice is restarted, obviously that has not occurred. Anyone claiming the end times have started when the Temple has not been rebuilt, is wrong and every Christian who has read the Bible knows it.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The end was supposed to happen when the temple was destroyed, within a generation of Jesus's life. That already happened.
     
  7. Battle3

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    The key events are centered not the destruction of the Temple, but the rebuilding of the Temple and the restart of sacrifice followed by the Abomination of Desolation occurring in the middle of a 7 year period.

    Its true that the first Christians (in the 1st Century AD) expected Jesus to return in their lifetime. But that was not accurate, as Peter wrote specifically about it in 1 Peter sometime between AD 64-68, Paul wrote about it in Timothy (AD 62-66), both written at the start of or during Nero's persecution of Christians and just before the Temple was destroyed in AD 70. 1 & 2 Thessalonians also deals with the return of Jesus, and do not match events in the 1st Century. In Matthew 24 (the Olivet Discourse) Jesus refers to events which clearly did not occur in the 1st Century. And Revelation (written around AD 95, well after the Temple was destroyed) was clearly written about a distant end.

    Plus these all tie into Daniel, Ezekial, Jeremiah, Isaiah.

    And almost all including the Old Testament parts, discuss a 7 year period (or the last 3 1/2 years of that 7 year period) which does not fit the 2nd Temple destruction.
     
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    There are OT references to the Temple being rebuilt (i.e., the Second Temple). The NT places focus on the destruction of this temple. The whole concept of a Third Temple was invented by Christians who saw that their prophecies concerning the Second Temple didn't come true, so they decide there must be a third one coming.

    The Olivet Discourse refers to the fall of the Temple that existed at the time, not the fall of that temple, and then the construction of a new temple over 2,000 years later, and then that third temple's fall. Some of the events came to pass, and others did not. In other words, they failed.

    None of whom ever say anything about a Third Temple.

    Really? "Almost all" of the OT parts discuss a 7 year period? Which ones?
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    According to the fairy tale Sodom has to be rebuilt to its former glory; Egypt has to be devoid of people for 40 years; and all life including bugs have to be killed in Israel. Since none of those things has happen we have nothing to worry about. And we'll have a 40 year warning with Egypt before the crap will hit the fan. So chill.
     
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    But the Early Christian religion dumped that story (after it didn't happen) and replaced it with Jesus = God and eternal life in the Gospel of John. Bait and switch.
     
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    This one claims to speak for all Christians. He must be one important dude, or at least he thinks so.
     
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    Hey, bring the lord over and I will meet him. Right before I punch him in his nose, for expecting more morality from his creation than he is willing to indulge in.

    When I, an imperfect human being, is of a higher morality than your god, you are worshipping the wrong guy. You should be worshipping me, not this dude.

    In so far as prophets, Robert Heinlein is the better prophet. For back in the 1930s he wrote of "The Crazy Years" when America went bonkers, and used future news stories from the newspaper to show just how bonkers we were. And he nailed it!!! What had people laughing back then, laughing at the silliness, the utter stupidity of rational beings, is now no laughing matter, but we take these jokes seriously.
     
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    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He does not!! Well, he is supposed to love all people. But he gave us these higher developed brains to use, to value logic, rationality, reason, and he loves it when we do the rare thing and operate from these modes.

    The poorly educated, I am sure he has sympathy for, but probably chuckles at these fundamentalist evangelicals, for they are comedic in nature, to believe in what their poorly educated, and irrational brains have created. In the place of the creator of universes, they have substituted something that looks more like a spoiled, petulant, demanding, selfish, bratty 2 year old who throws tantrums.

    If god exists, he sure as hell isn't this image the human brain has created of him. That we would insult the creator by these infantile images sure does him no justice at all. And yet we do not feel the shame for doing it, but keep doing it, and act all serious about these jokes.
     
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    Religious propaganda about an infantile and obsolete religion.

    Yawn.
     
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    These Christians tend to be imbued with great arrogance, which is quite obvious. Each of them, depending upon their denomination claim to have a handle on the truth, and nothing but the truth. And the sinful arrogance has been so great, so prolific, as to create 500 denominations, with each laying claim that what they believe is the only truth out there. LOL. You cannot make this stuff up, due to the utter absurdity of it. And yet, they are not rational enough to even notice a tremendous incoherence in thinking.

    All of these different denominations come not from logic, reason, rationality, but from a human nature that is illogical, irrational and unreasonable. For if we could ALL be rational, logical, reasonable beings, with a basic moral center, there would only be one political party, and one religion. It is therefore only a very flawed human nature that creates all of these divisions, political, philosophical, religious. For this is what irrationality creates, and human nature is very irrational in many areas.

    And atheists are not any different from the theists. For atheists are also not governed by rationality, reason, logic, with a moral center. They are governed over by the same human nature that theists are subject to. Oh, they make claims to be rational, logical, reasonable, and perhaps they are, but only in very limited areas, and there is no consistency there. And human nature controls them just like it controls the theists. They are as irrational in their atheism as the theists are in their religious beliefs. Both groups are driven by nothing but arrogance, ego arrogance. Human nature in other words.
     
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    Of course, if this god is a mere invention of human thought, then it is subject to human imagination and is the image(s) of the human brain.
     
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    Thing about "End of the World" predictions is....


    they get funnier and funnier the older they get.

    :)
     
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    Y'all need to sell everything you own, buy some white robes and sit on a mountaintop waiting for the end.
     
  19. Battle3

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    Your statement can be taken in 2 ways.

    The first is that since you admit the prophecies did not come true with the destruction of the Second Temple then there will be a Third Temple.

    The second is that you think the New Testament is all just made up, in which case arguing about details such as a Third Temple and the end times is irrelevant.


    Read Daniel 9:27. A "time" is one year, "times" is 2 years.

    Read Matthew 24, the Olivet Discourse, in which Jesus answers the question "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” Jesus refers directly to Daniel (Matthew 24:15)

    But again if you think the New Testament is just made up then there is no point in going into details.
     
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    So if a "time" is "a year"....how long is an "age"?
     
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    My Bible read 'years' not 'times' in Daniel 9:27 So do Hebrew scriptures. And a 'week' means seven years.

    What Jesus says is simply what he learned. And because he was taught it by the religious leaders, he believed it. Just as many Christians have believed what the Church has told them. Much of which is simply adapted Jewish ritual and beliefs by Paul.
     
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    In Daniel, the end times events are mentioned several times with several time measures. Combined with the language context of the time of Daniel, "a time" is used to mean one year, just like in a similar way "a week" can mean either 7 days or 7 years depending upon the context.
     
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    Doesn't really matter. You don't know either.
    So you have to make something up as well.
    Looks like you choose to make up a 3rd temple. If the 3rd is built, then a 4th will be built someday.
     
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    Imagine that. The ends times don't begin until some temple is rebuilt in the land of the same people who made up the prophecy to begin with. Apparently the rest of the world and the universe don't matter. But that small section of the middle east, whoa boy, God really loves that place I guess.
     
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    It might be entertaining to watch these fictional videos and then point out the flaws, when I have the time.

    In the meantime maybe you can explain the total failure and embarrassment of these prophecies which have failed time and again.

    Take the seven year tribulation for example. People have been predicting this for a long long time. Hal Lindsey was a famous and notable christian interpreter of prophecy who went out of his way to predict tha this prophecy would come true in the 1980s. Um obviously he fell flat on his face and virtually everything he predicted was a laughable failure. The same happened to others less famous in the WWII era and the WWi era and the mid 19th century and so on and so on.

    So rather than preaching and warning maybe you can address why any of these prophecies should be believed THIS time when they have failed so many times previously.
     

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