Biden: ‘There’s no place for this kind of violence in America’

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Now, if only that were true. But it is patently false. This kind of violence happens in the USA on at least a weekly basis, except that one of the victims is not always a political candidate.

Donald Trump does not often get it right, but on one view he has of the USA, I agree with him but obviously for different reasons.

The USA is in trouble, serious trouble, constitutionally, politically, and judicially.

Institutionally.

I have no issue whatsoever with the common USA man/woman. They are just like me, with the usual human loves, lusts, wishes, aspirations, and needs.

But, as I have referred to before, this is the slow boiling frog syndrome. 'You' have become so inured, so apathetic about gun viloence in the USA, so blind to it that even Biden blindingly asserts that "there is no place for this kind of violence in America."

How wrong he is, how disconnected to reality he is. Just as anyone in the USA who agrees with him is ignoring the hard cold truth of what actually is in place in the USA.

Weekly massacres. Gun culture, violence is the solution to all evils. Hyped rhetoric, sneaky, insidious signals to the willing soldiers.

"You" have to stop kidding yourselves Team USA, and accept that gun violence HAS become an embedded part of what is almost now cultural.

I hope you stop it before it becomes actually cultural.

The Western World needs a strong USA which is not eating itself from within through false denial of what is really happening.

How would I start to fix it?

Okay.

1. Both Biden and Humpty* drop out of this election.
2. The political rhetoric gets toned down massively so that there is no hint or reference to violence, actual tribal warfare, with comments like "bullseye," "take the Country back," and "fight, fight, fight." etc etc etc ad nauseam.
3. There is a Constitutional Reform Committee established and given effect to.
4. SCOTUS gets a serious face lift, no more ideologues there, just pure Jurists.
5. The 2nd gets booted.

 

Or you could just call it violence in general, as part of Americas problem. As ppl say, it's not the gun but the nature of the person using it.

Americans are a culturally violent and aggressive ppl.

 

* The ridiculous ease of access to high powered weaponry enables the slaughter to be carried out so much more easily.
* The US is no more “culturally” prone to violence than my own.

 

How? The left has brought people into power with top salaries that just benefit from saying that whether the call for genocide on Jews is acceptable or not depends on the context. The more extreme they get, the better they are off.

Whats your idea to get the genie back into the bottle?

 

He’s not ignoring it bush lawyer, he has tried to fuel this from his podium publicly:


"Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic."

— Joseph R. Biden

Battle for the Soul of the Nation speech - 9-1-2022

Look this speech up.

The people you voted for called us MAGAs dangerous and did their best to instill fear into the citizens of this country and thus us the result.

Now, of course, they have say all the: “Our thoughts and prayers…” bs political garbage that makes them look as if they care about our country when in summer 2020: they allowed the people who’s pictures I’ve posted above do whatever the hell they wanted to. Where is you news media today talking about these violent riots ALLOWED by corrupt politicians?
We won’t forget that your corrupt politicians allowed this.

And we DEFINITELY won’t forget this:



Notice any difference between my side and your side?

 

In Mexico, 37 candidates for office were assassinated during the 2024 elections. The US is quite peaceful by comparison, although probably becoming less so. It's hard to tell, because the statistics are small. But from JFK to Ronald Reagan, there were more shootings of political figures including RFK, MLK, a couple attempts on Ford (remember Squeaky Fromme?).

That violence has no place in elections seems naive. After all, elections are a proxy for war. Counting numbers on both sides gives a rough estimate of the armed force each side could raise, and is therefore can be used to decide the issue without actual bloodshed.

Elections seem to have become popular once infantry tactics developed to the point that mounted knights were neutralized. The Swiss infantry was known for this, and Switzerland was an early democracy. Cromwell's New Army also perfected infantry tactics.

So the power of armies became a function of how many commoners you could muster with halberds, pikes, crossbows, and longbows, rather than how many elite knights you could muster via the feudal system of land grants to nobility who possessed expensive war horses, armor, and weapons.

 

Biden: ‘IT'S TIME TO PUT A BULLSEYE ON TRUMP’

looks like they are listening!

 

Looks like one Republican had enough of the HATE the Orange Stain is selling. Trump's worst enemy is his own mouth.

 

Here is an example of political violence at an extreme. Curious to see how Trump handles this.

 

The boiling frog comparison is applicable, of course.
To fix a condition that already exists, you need an accurate grasp of the basic, underlying facts. That's difficult to do because of all the denials, cover-ups and propaganda, but still possible.

What a nation needs to be healthy and productive is fairly simple- and that is good values, particularly in leadership, so the examples set there become the models for the followers, the people.
The rules must be fair, the conduct must honor them, and there must be independent oversight with the power to remove from office- any who refuse to do so.

We have good values and rules, in the form of the US Constitution, and the concept of Fiduciary Duty. These are obligations of all office holders.
We have no effective oversight, and what there is has no ability to enforce anything. Thus we have a government (not just a president or party) that cannot earn the trust and respect of the people. That won't set the examples of honor that the citizens need to see, and establish a standard of respectable behavior.

The right examples by leadership set precedents among followers, of what is acceptable. Just as bad conduct encourages bad conduct, the reverse is also true.

Why do you refer to Biden as Biden- but Trump as "Humpty"? Because you have been influenced by the use of and tolerance of abuse by others, particularly leadership and public figures.
They made that acceptable to you, because they did it in front of the camera and it was tolerated. Disrespect. It may be your feelings, but it also promotes denigration of the standards that allow us to be civil and work out differences. It also lowers the bar- and causes both side to sink to that level. People quit focusing on the real problems, and chase the identities, the affiliations, the red herrings.

You speak of "gun violence". But of course, guns aren't violent. They are inanimate pieces of metal, classified as weapons. To be USED as a weapon against people- requires a Violent Person. It is the person who perpetrates violence; weapons do not in any way cause it, they are only instruments the violent person chooses. The choices include not only guns- but knives, hammers, screwdrivers,clubs, rocks, poisons,
bombs and a multitude of things so omnipresent in all societies it is impossible to remove them. But if you could, the ultimate weapon still exists- the violent person, the one element that is the common denominator of all violence. One equipped with a weapon you can't take away. Every year, more people are killed by the means of beating with fists and feet than are kill by all long weapons (rifles, shotguns) of all calibers and kinds combined. When we focus on the weapon rather than the violent person.... we fail to address the real problem.

People commit violence. When we learn to address this- which can't be done without responsible, honorable leadership to set the examples- then we have a chance to change the world, and diminish the violence of all kinds.

 

Guns make violence more lethal. It's like pouring gasoline on an already existing fire.

It looks like Trump may have been targeted by a gun nut. The shooter was a wearing a Demolition Ranch shirt. Obviously, Demolition Ranch is a YouTube channel for gun enthusiasts: https://www.youtube.com/demolitionranch

It's interesting that some people try to associate guns with freedom. Yet, last night we witnessed the opposite: gun violence resulted in less freedom of speech for Trump. He had to end his speech early and get medical treatment. In a truly free society, you should be able to exercise your rights without being shot.

 

Please. If Biden had “ordered” this, they would not have missed.

 

Sheriff.... Do the letters "FO" mean anything to you?

 

A gun nut would have used a bolt-action -06 and aimed center mass.

 

you are probably correct, but its definitely incitement. I wonder if there is audio of him saying the bullseye statement. That would make a great political add. You could play biden saying that, followed by the attempted assassination footage. Would be a great commercial!

 

all the highlighted in bold is wrong and false! We don’t have a violent gun culture when the majority of gun owners are peaceful law abiding gun owners. It sickens me that you ignore the real gun culture of freedom loving peaceful people and for that I pass along a hand gesture I shouldn’t mention. Infact…. Two hand gestures

 

Now I’ll address these. Biden needs to drop out because he’s a moron who struggles to make a single appearance without looking like he lost his brain to all the drugs found in the White House. Trump just took a bullet for his country. Something Biden always speaks of and lies about in war stories. I’ll keep Trump and this only strengthens my opinion. We need a guy that will tackle the extremists of the left and he obviously scares them so bad they are trying to lock him up and murder him.

2- political rhetoric is laughable. The democrats have pushed a bill to take away his secret service detail. They are trying to pave the way for this. Not to mention all the lawsuits that never would have happened if not for him being in politics. And also a rape charge with zero and I mean zero evidence. Absolute no and I mean NO EVIDENCE!!! Can’t tell me that wasn’t political either. Garbage *** money grubber sure pulled in your strings like a puppet.

3- our constitution doesn’t need to be reformed! It needs to be upheld! Constitution reform is done through the amendment process not through a committee. Are you trying to ruin our constitution? Oh you’re a liberal…. I shouldn’t be shocked

4- SCOTUS already got a face lift and they’re finally ruling based on the constitution, thank god and Trump!

5- The second gets booted again through the amendment process and no other way and is something I whole heartedly disagree with (booting the 2nd).

 

No. The gun didn't attack Trump- a person did. ALL weapons make violence more lethal, but none of them do so without being a tool of a person bent on violence. What matters is who uses them, and why. Guns also take down violent people, as they did in this case. They protect families, they stop violence from happening, they present a possible consequence that is a strong deterrent.

Violence didn't begin with the invention of guns, violence and mass murders go back as far as history. The one common denominator of that is not the weapon- but the mindset of the people, the will to use violence to control others. The first most powerful weapon- was probably a rock or club. Then a pointed stick to be used as a spear. Then a stick with a rock tied to it to become a kind of axe. Somewhere in the future, the weapon of choice, the state of the art- will probably be a laser weapon the size of a cigar. Guns will be obsolete- but violence will continue. Until the time that we look to the mental state and values of ourselves, and the way be raise our children, construct our society, it will continue.

 

It was a heartfelt moment to see Trump reassure America that the only way democrats can win is not by violence but by ballot fraud!

 

You need to get out more.

 

Dont you find it yourself a little bit embarrassing, when you cannot answer a simple question "How?" and must counter now with personal insults? I mean, ok, I get it, you dont have no answers and I knew it beforehand, in that sense the question was mean, but you dont have to embarrass yourself in proving exactly how incapable the left is of being the voice of reason as it wants to present itself in that thread.

 

I get what Biden was going for here, and yet I also don’t get it because violence is and always has been a daily occurrence in this country since day 1. That will not change.

 

When I see a naive and unrealistic comment, I will comment on it myself. I’m not attacking anyone, I’m keeping my comments related to the post. Aren’t you embarrassed about the lack of substance in the post?

 

I dont think Biden ordered it...but seriously? Biden has literally ****ed up every issue he has touched...how can you POSSIBLY say that with a straight face?

 

Yes, tons of difference





Y’all exposed yourself during Jan 6 and when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was attacked. The calls for fascism are just the cherry on the top.

Remember when trump repeated “The only good democrat is a dead one”

What about this gem?


And then ultimately: