Biden: ‘There’s no place for this kind of violence in America’

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  1. Mungo Jerry

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    But you aren't going to actively confiscate them, unless they somehow surface.
    You know, like after someone commits a crime with one.
    That means you -are- leaving them in private hands, and you -are- guaranteeing they make their way onto the black market.
    So.... again...
    How will this reduce shootings?
     
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    So why is at Aus and the UK awash with guns?
     
  3. Mungo Jerry

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    I'm sorry you don't like the fact you were caught making an inaccurate statement - but that's -your- fault.
    I am glad you have admitted to your error, and conceded the fact both Australia and the US sometimes allows 50% of the population to decide what happens with their own bodies.
    You may now satisfy your petulant need to get in the last word.
     
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    Please - try to keep up.
     
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    What's the prize :icon_picknose:
     
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    What matters to others is what matters to others. You just wrote what you think matters to others.

    Not necessarily. Some people are quite accomplished and successful and not better at reading situations and people then others. Again, just your opinion.

    I am very sorry to inform you of this but you don’t seem able to look beyond yourself and the biases you actually possess. One does not necessarily know how to read people to be successful. Due to your own biases, you don’t seem to recognize this.

    Are you actually kidding right now? Sexual abuse, lying, felony, theft of both documents and money, racism, bigotry, xenophobia and so on are not mere quirks and faults. That just demonstrates your inability to read people.

    Do you personally know Trump or are you so taken in by his narcissistic lies that you basically will paint a rosy picture of who the man is? Your lips must be stained from the purple koolaid.

    Again, you are describing Trump — he only cares about himself.

    I don’t see what makes Trump special for one reason. He is NOT special. Your whole description of me is absolutely inaccurate. You continually post your adoration for Trump. You ignore everything he has done which makes you gullible. I go by facts. I look at both sides of everything.

    You are confident of your judgements of me. Well, since you are incapable of actually not observing the truth, make value judgements based on nothing but your own emotional love towards Trump, there is no hope for you. So now I am going to do to things 1. Cook dinner for the family. 2. Put you on ignore.
     
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    Double post
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you don't see what I see, and that is fully expected, I would have been shocked if you did- and asking why you hadn't changed your perspective.
    We seldom reach anyone who is captive to the liberal delusions, but it's a moral obligation to try.
    Appreciate the ignore choice, helps clean up the yard over here.
     
  9. Bush Lawyer

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    How cute.
     
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    Question for you: do you agree with Biden when he says there’s no place for this kind of violence in America?
     
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    Of course- but the democrats have produced the environment that generates violence. When you promote hate and hostility then decry it's occurrence, thats double-speak. BS.
    I think Bidens words are politically correct for the moment, but not from the heart- and that is pandering. If there is any truth to it, it's more along the lines of he thinks it's bad because it might happen to him.
     
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    I did not know Lincoln had been shot at once before his assassination:
     
  13. bx4

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    Trump uses more violent rhetoric, and more often, than all Democrats put together.
    Your bias is blinding you to the reality.
     
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    I'd love @spiritgide to come up with a link proving that to be incorrect, at least so far as Biden and relevant Senior Democrats go.

    I suspect s/he has zero chance of doing so.

    Over to you @spiritgide. What have you got? Nothing?
     
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    No need for spiritgide to come up with anything, I got this: the 2020 riots in “democrat” run cities that for whatever reasons are NEVER brought up by either you, bx4, or you, Bush Lawyer, or the MSM, why is that? These 2020 riots ruined peoples lives, your fellow Americans were murdered, honest tax paying citizens lost their businesses, BLM took over blocks of city streets in these “democrat” run cities. Proof of the hate back then? Got that also, good thing I saved these photos cause they’re getting harder to find.

    What do you say about this bx4 and Bush Lawyer:

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    These riots were pushed on purpose. They were pushed for political agendas by democrat run cities. These were as violent as it gets.

    Its very convenient for you guys to forget how violent these “mostly peaceful” protests actually were.

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    Kat, they have a serious case of selective amnesia. Just as they coincidentally forget 9 straight years of everyone calling Trump 'Hitler', the end of democracy, etc. Just as they forgot about years of these nutjobs attacking Trump supporters.

    Point is, it's like trying to argue with an Alzheimer's patient. Complete waste of time. They're in their own reality, and there's nothing that can be done to bring them out of it.
     
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    Joe Biden repeatedly condemned that violence.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/wor...tests-in-the-last-three-months-idUSKBN25V2NI/

    Do you have any videos of prominent Democrats supporting any of that violence?
     
  18. spiritgide

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    You probably think Making America Great Again- is violent rhetoric. Condemning the causes of failures and the people endorsing detrimental acts isn't promoting violence, it's part of the process of fixing them. Trump does indeed condemn such things, and so do I.

    There are enemies of our quality of life and success and we must deal with them. Generally they aren't personal, but at times they come from people who think that they should be free to impose their values on everybody. These are also enemies of our power to chose our own path in life and be subject to the control and subjugation of corrupt governments and any philosophy that gains leverage.

    These are the things that Trumps attacks- and I feel the same. These are things that steal the power of people to manage and direct their own lives, which I believe is your undeniable right.

    The Democrats do not think it is- nor do the liberals. They believe you must serve the collective, and that they are the ones who get to define that. They are also the ones who will apply totally different standards of rights to those they like and those they don't, without feeling any moral conflict. That is a violation of every person's rights. It is the left that has two standards of justice, and theirs forgives and rationalizes their worst transgressions while condemning the least of their opponents as terroristic and more.

    What you fight for, what you attack defines the act as righteous- or self-serving and malicious. Obviously you adhere to the concept that what you think is righteous and therefore makes attacks on those who think differently justifiable, and any tactic justifiable. I do not. I respect the rights of all persons- so long as they respect mine. You can do whatever you want to yourself, but when you do to others- you are the adversary, and you should be called out for it.

    Trump is applying the same standards to such people he accepts for himself. I do precisely the same thing, and have most of my life. Maturity tells us this is our obligation to our fellow man.
    The left doesn't agree. The mentality is like that of a person who has never reached the point of holding themselves responsible for their own decisions, and blames the rest of society for their failures and frustrations. This isn't something you can demonstrate to them and have them understand, because they measure everything with that concept as their ruler. They believe it, and until they decide to question it, give those who believe differently the same rights they claim for themselves- they will not learn.

    "Birds of a feather"- an old saying that says like things cling together applies. The people who think society owes them and should give them free benefits will endorse the politicians who promise them. They won't ask the questions they should- such as who pays for my free benefits. They know it can't be free, but they want to believe the promise- and vote for that kind of politician.

    And... the consequences will still be somebody else's fault. Trump calls that out. It's truth- not violent rhetoric. Obviously, you embrace the double standard, and this will fall on deaf ears.
     
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    Perhaps you don't understand the tactics of entrenched politicians. Such people are never what they appear to be.
    You tell the people what they want to hear, present the image they like and make the promises that get votes. But- you do what you want behind the scenes.


    Joe Kennedy, JFK's father and a master political strategist put it this way: "What you are doesn't matter is politics. What people think you are matters." Because that is what controls their vote.

    Trump came to office with no previous political position- and a business point of view. What you see- is what you get.
    Biden was as entrenched as any politician could be, and had been manipulating his cover image for decades. Pretty much mastered the skill of hiding himself and his corruptions.

    It's a rare politician that will call things as they are and keep their promises. Biden never has, Trump focuses on it.
    Biden had to condemn the attempted assination. Political neccessity. On the other hand, Biden people have tried everything but assassination to take Trump out, and that started in 2015.
    If Trump had been killed- the arch enemy of Biden and the democrats would be gone. They would have decried it in public- celebrated it in private.

    They do the same thing with activites that disturb the base of their enemies and weaken them politically, including riots and protests. Every now and then one will step over the line and expose their hate, such as Maxine Waters promoting the idea of finding and harrassing any Trump supporters such as the event that took place in a Massachusetts restaurant long ago. One of the key indicators is the consequences, the tolerance of the system in response to such things. The riots springing from Minneapolis.... called "Mostly peaceful protest"- with billions of dollars in damages. With the J6, we have long prison terms for people who walked inside the tour guideline ropes and took pictures, guilty at most of trespassing in a public building that wasn't open to tours at the time.

    The scales of justice are not in balance. Neither are our politics in balance. The left is promoting that- and denying it at the same time. That is the moral standard they think is good enough for you as a citizen to live under, so long as it only applies to them and they control it.
     
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    Thats a LOT of blah blah blah without responding to my points or backing up anything you said.

    Just proving that you are blinded by your own biases.
     
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    How cute.
     
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    So said the stump to the chainsaw....
     
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    What have I got to say? I say this. It is irrelevant to MY point which was:

    It was said:

    [quote[Trump uses more violent rhetoric, and more often, than all Democrats put together.[/quote]

    To which I replied:

    I was not asking about 'democrat run cities' or BLM violence.
     
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    No prize for second!
     
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    Well Eddie I don’t listen or watch any news because I don’t trust news sources. I rely more on common sense.
     

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