Biden admin providing veteran medical resources to illegal immigrants

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LoL where does both the VA and ICE get their money.

    I'll wait.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True. There are a bunch of failed, miserable countries that have high drug usage as well.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LoL.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But they DO call out false accusations, which results in unscrupulous people denying them and trying to shift the label of guilt on those exposing them.
    You probably didn't know that....
     
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    Sure, still waiting for the evidence of your thread. !!!! :)
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NO, you're not. You may be waiting to argue, but evidence does not alter the mindsets of people determined to believe only what they want to believe. It's only more fodder for their denialism.
     
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    Well if you read the news today, another RW conspiracy group just announced they no evidence of vote tampering for the 2020 election. Another one of thousands of ridiculous conspiracies from RWers that went nowhere.

    BTW, there is a new one with Taylor Swift being in on helping Biden win this election. :)
     
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    Why shouldn't they pay for it like everyone else? Why should I pay for them to get healthcare while I have to also pay for myself?
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait- people you call RW conspiracy group announced they have no evidence of tampering, and you call that the finding of no evidence a ridiculous conspiracy??
    Agreeing with you is now a conspiracy if you label it RW?

    And instead of looking at the substance and possible credibility of information, you label anything you think is from RW a conspiracy and dismiss it. Denialism, by the book.

    There is also an article showing how the shifting to mail-in ballots allowed manipulations on an unprecedented scale, and if the existing rules had been kept in place, Trump would have won...
    When you vote in person, you show proof of identity, like your driver's license, and the poll staff can visually identify you- thus, you only get to vote once. With mail ballots, one person can assume unlimited identities and vote unlimited times by mail.

    Changing the rules changes the result when unscrupulous agents can control it. That IS fraud.
    The people behind making that mechanism possible and using it to defraud working together. They ARE conspirators.
    It doesn't matter who they are or who they seek to benefit, those acts are crimes.
     
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    Just once provide some evidence. Once again you make accusations.
     
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    Because they can’t? Do you think migrants are rolling in dough? We pay for care for lots of people who can’t pay for their own.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My god- if you can read or hear, the evidence is overwhelming. The common sense of any rational person confirms it.
    When you are neck deep in the lake and demand proof that water exists.... Damn.
     
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    So still no answer.

    I have no use for idiots like Alex Jones let alone those that subscribe to that garbage.
     
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    They didn't have to come here. They could have stayed in their home country and gotten that awesome free health care. The people we pay for, are (or should be) citizens. Sorry, but it's BS that US citizens have to work extra to pay for their own health care plus the rest of the world. It's already bad enough that pharma raises our drug prices so that they can lower prices on 3rd world countries.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You got the answer. you're just not grasping the message, and that is not my fault.
     
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    We also pay for care for lots of people who could pay for their own care but don't because they know someone else will be fool enough to pay it for them.
    That is enabling the problem, not solving it.

    Illegal migrants have countries but have failed as a people to make their societies functional. They are running from their own mess. Why would you think they will do any differently here?

    America is like the greener grass in the neighbors pasture; illegal migrants like the cattle making holes in the fences to take advantage of it- and leaving nothing but fresh manure in their path.
    Unless you like wading in fresh manure, you don't tear the fence down- you fix it.

    If you don't- your country will become just like the country they came from.
     
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    Yes that’s why we have a king now, because of all those British colonizers.
     
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    Truth depends on vision as well as visibility. If it's put clearly in front of you and you don't see it, you have a vision problem. If you see it but can't recognize it, you have a perceptional or value problem.
    All of that depends on the observer.
     

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