Biden and other Dems - what the public wanted vs what the public got

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by yangforward, May 7, 2024.

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What did we actually get?

  1. Trashed relations with Russia

    2 vote(s)
    100.0%
  2. Trashed relations with Saudi Arabia

    2 vote(s)
    100.0%
  3. Higher military costs

    2 vote(s)
    100.0%
  4. Proxy war with Russia

    2 vote(s)
    100.0%
  5. 30 countries ganged up against Russia and a chance of a nuclear war

    2 vote(s)
    100.0%
  6. Failed attempts so far to start a war with China

    2 vote(s)
    100.0%
  7. Conflict with Iran

    1 vote(s)
    50.0%
  8. Wars, wars and more wars

    1 vote(s)
    50.0%
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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of people think Left to Right is a sort of sliding scale

    and think Biden is to the left of Trump by a little bit

    so Biden would mean getting along better with Russia,
    diplomacy with the rest of the world, lower military costs, that sort of thing.

    We actually got the OPPOSITE.

    Do those Dems have any idea what they are talking about?
     
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    The simple fact is that Biden is a weak, frail and senile. The bad guys see this and take advantage of it. When there is a world meeting of leaders, and Biden spends it sleeping and missing events, like banquets, his weakness is plainly evident to the world.
     
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    So, we are being weak with helping Ukraine. What more should we be doing? Boots on the ground?

    The Russian posters, like the OP, are not even trying to hide the fact they want Trump to win.
     
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    The bad guys see that Biden is weak and act accordingly.
     
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    So, we are being weak with helping Ukraine. What more should we be doing? Boots on the ground? What would "being strong" with Ukraine look like?
     
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    The bad guy SEE that Biden is weak and see the they can get away with aggression. Support for the Ukraine is a REACTION to Biden’s failures and weakness, NOT an indication that he is strong.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still no answer. No worries, I won't ask again.
     
  8. JohnHamilton

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    I thought that you are an “independent” who doesn’t carry the water for either party.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you think of me has nothing to do with anything. I asked a simple question, and you avoided it twice, and now you deflect by trying to make it about me?

    Did Hitler attack Poland because Roosevelt was weak? Did Japan attack China because Roosevelt was weak? Did N. Korea attack S. Korea because Truman was weak? Did USSR take over Czechoslovakia because Nixon was weak? Did N.Vietnam mess with the South because Eisenhower was weak. Did Grenada act up because Reagan was weak?

    Crap happens around the world and it doesnt have anything to do with who is in the WH at the time. Sometimes they get away with it, and sometimes they face US reaction, like they did in Korea, Vietnam, Germany, Japan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Grenada, and countless other places
     
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    Yea, it doesn’t matter who the president is, right? If that’s true, why are you so unset by Trump? If the president doesn’t matter, then his election shouldn’t matter to you.

    And Hitler attacked Poland because England and France looked weak, and he figured he could get away with it. In the meantime, the isolationist movement was huge in the U.S. They were able to tie FDR’s hands until Peal Harbor.

    As for the other examples you cited, there other forces involved. Sometimes a dictator like Stalin thinks he can more and get away with. Vietnam was a French colonial issue, which should have avoided. Czechoslovakia was in the middle of the Iron Curtain. It was not a place where an American president could intervene.

    If you think that Biden at 81 years old, and counting, it fit to be elected for four more years, you make case. I see an old guy who is not in charge of his own administration and way over his head.
     
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    I didn't say a word about him. You brought him up

    I dont think you got the point I was making.

    He was going to attack them no matter what, and you just proved my point. Russia made the same mistake, thinking Ukraine was weak, but they didn't count on the worldwide support they are getting.

    You prove my point again.
     

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