Biden believes Putin is a killer, vows Russian leader 'will pay a price' for trying to help Trump wi

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your deflection above notwithstanding, your original post was a catalogue of errors. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
     
  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this why Biden fell?

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putin must have one of these.

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    Not just this.
    Trump left nuclear Iran "deal", negotiated by Russia
    Trump ordered to assasssinate Gen. Quassem Suleimani, the top Russian asset in Iran.
    Trump seriously weakened Iran (and Russia) through negotiating "Abraham Accords" between Israel and four major (Sunni) Arab States.
    Trump resembled a strong, vicious dog, who does not bark at the intruders, but fiercely bites them, though probably not fiercely enough, remember genocide in Syria.
     
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  6. AlpinLuke

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    This is a political forum, we are in a political context.
    Vladimir Vladimirovic is a very good friend of Italians [and a good friend of an Italian friend of mine ... but this is not a relevant detail].

    In this context I'm rhetoric. Period.

    Vladimir Vladimirovic [I try to make his name sound in Russian: Влади́мир Влади́мирович Пу́тин] was a KGB officer in Eastern Germany [in Dresden c/o Stasi].

    Now, I have to admit [being a bit reluctant] that actually he never was operative in that period [I would like to remind great deeds, you know ...]. He was only an interpreter who wrote down reports for the authorities in Moscow.

    But you know, life is life.
     
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    I am not a Biden fan, but its obvious Putin wanted Trump in the WH because he was so easy to manipulate and because under Trump US would be weaker and more divided.
     
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    Nailed it! :applause: :applause: :applause:
     
  9. Pollycy

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    More divided than we were under Comrade Obama?

    Pootski was very wary of Trump because Trump was so weirdly unpredictable , but Joe...? Putin will be able to predict, and thus CONTROL, ol' Joe as easily as a bug in a jar! :bug:
     
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    Doesn't it seem inadvisable for the president of the US to call a foreign leader a killer and threaten him? I mean, words matter, right? I know, I know... "but Trump..."
     
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    Your point is well taken.

    Trump never went to 'Charm School', but he never said anything so blathering-ass STOOPID as this latest brain-fart from Geriatric Joe was....
     
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    Russia will survive the "war".....LOL....Russia is doomed.:roflol:

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...-in-retreat-as-the-soviet-collapse-continues/
     
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    Yes, way more divided, and its not even close.

    Trump is as predictable as they some, and Russians knew exactly how to manipulate him.
     
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  14. Jeannette

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    I should think Putin would want Trump because he knew he wasn't stupid, and the world wouldn't end up in a nuclear war. Biden though is corrupt like Clinton, and could easily be bought if he was in control, but he's not. The neo cons are, and they have their own agendas - and their agenda doesn't exclude war.
     
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    And how did Putin manipulate Trump?

    Trump increased sanctions, fought Nord Stream 2, and let Putin understand that he must not take over any more of any part of Ukraine that Putin seized when OBAMA was 'on the throne'.

    Sure enough, Putin never made moves to take over any more of Ukraine at all... or do you remember it differently...?
     
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    Vladimir Putin was very patriotic and wanted to join the KGB, but they told him to get an education first - which he did. He studied international law, and economics as well. As I know it, his job in the KGB was to analyze the information. Later on Yeltsin made him the head of the FSB.

    Putin said that during the wild west years, the worse elements in the KGB quit to make their fortune, and that it was a good thing, since only the best remained. When he was a bureaucrat in Saint Petersburg, he had a reputation for integrity and was the only one who didn't expect favors or gifts when the rest were getting rich on their seat.

    The reason Yeltsin gave him the presidency when he quit, was because he knew he could be trusted and wouldn't do anything to hurt him or his family.

    I know Vladimir Putin is highly devout and goes on retreats to monasteries and has a spiritual father that advises him on moral and spiritual issues. They also pray for him, that's why he was given the throne of the Byzantine Emperor at Mount Athos. He's also absolutely brilliant. When he has call ins from citizens, he can answer questions for hours on end and on anything and everything.

    He is a tough cookie though, and doesn't fool around when it comes to Russia's welfare. If it wasn't so, he wouldn't have been able to handle the criminal oligarchs and governors the way he did.

    Frankly, I think Putin's connection with the Intelligence agencies is his biggest asset, since he doesn't have to depend on the oligarchs for his position the way American politicians do. Instead the oligarchs are at his mercy, so whenever he wants a grand project such as building up Socchi for the Olympic Games and making it a world resort, the World Games, and even the enormous and outstanding Military Cathedral, he expects the oligarchs to cover the costs.

    This way Putin doesn't have to burden the tax payers.
     
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    Was super bad decorum - coupled with hyperbolic hypocrisy. Who is "The Killer" in this conversation ..

    Is it A ) Putinsky .. or B) Smokin Joe

    The Answer is of course Both - as is one's job to kill sometimes as a head of State .. but which one was worse ?

    I will try to dig up something against Smokin Joe - The others can take Putin ..

    I will - for starters - stack up massive war crimes and crimes against humanity over most of the last decade - under Biden - for which we are currently being held to account by the ICC .. for one of the two wars .. this is no joke

    but Yemen was nothing in comparison to Syria .. and 400,000 dead .. On Biden's Head - and the Court of Justice has not even gotten to that one yet .. but they will . .. but . .. decorum dictates that we do not air each others dirty laundry ...

    What was it that Putin did over the last decade that can compare ? ... sure a few dirty deeds .. No doubt about that I have .. but compared to the Capital E - Evil - that Biden propagated on the world .. snowflake in a blizzard.
     
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    One thing's for sure... Putin doesn't 'hide in a basement' from anybody.

    Every year he has a huge open forum kind of round table discussion with friend and foe alike... and these things go on for like THREE HOURS or more, with Putin getting 'down' with everybody.

    They put these things on YouTube so anybody can watch them, and they are translated into other languages, including English.
     
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    Did Biden actually call Putin a killer or did Joe just agree with the democrat party talking point read by pretend journalist George Stephanopoulos?



    GS Do you think Putin is a killer? Biden "ah I do".

    Interesting that even fake news CBS called it "a dangerous war of words". Imagine if Trump said that?
     
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    Putin is a killer! So collude with him about missiles in Europe? Why didn't Brennan and Clapper call this treason? Missiles in Europe!

     
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    If somebody calls you a ****-sucker, in public, and his buddy standing next to him says, "Yeah, I agree!" -- then what would your take-away be from THAT? :confusion:
     
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    Trump and Putin are or were good buddies.
     
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    Oh? Then why did Trump increase the sanctions against Russia, and fight Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Germany?

    Some of you people just don't make any sense at all....
     
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    They are full of nonsense. I posted on the other thread part of a letter by Dr. Craig Roberts who was Reagan's economic advisor to Vladimir Putin. Dr. Roberts was always upset at Washington's deception towards Gorbachev since it blackens Pres. Reagan's name. He always felt that Russia should take a harder line, otherwise the idiots in Washington might throw us into a nuclear war.

    Robert's feels that Putin is taking the insults in stride, but I don't think so. I think Putin is laughing at us for the 'alphabet' stupidities of this administration, and for having a demented person as president, but more so because of this:

    About 9 days ago a Russian stealth sub with missiles was in Lebanon and as soon as a second American aircraft carrier passed through the Straits of Gibraltar, the sub disappeared. Russia said don't worry about the sub, we have contact with it, but the Americans are going crazy trying to find it since it's a direct threat to their carriers.

    Does it make the carriers obsolete, maybe? According to my source, there are 6 Russian subs in the Black Sea. Are they there? How do we know they aren't along our Eastern coast?

    Anyway I think things like this are going on, and Washington uses the only thing it has, and that is it's propaganda networks. So Russia shows off its technology, while the media demonizes Putin in response. :wall:

    I'm just guessing here. I really don't know.
     
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    If The Russians don't know where their subs are the US Navy could probably help them out.
     

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