Biden Hires 24 Lawyers and Aides for White House War Room to Strategize for Likely GOP Impeachment

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Impeachments are not criminal trials, you said the were pending criminal charges that would have put him in jail, what criminal investigation charged him with crimes that were pending for him to leave office. It was a month after Nixon resigned that Ford issued the pardon and anyone with pending charges could have presented them. Cite me what charges were brought.
     
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    Start with explaining exactly what was the product or service the Biden family was providing to our worst foreign adversaries for the tens of millions in cash that was being showered on them and into their personal bank accounts after being laundered through almost two dozen shell companies? With Hunter Biden telling his sister he was tired of having to pay "Pops" bill out of it.
     
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    I think you know the issue for which he is facing impeachment not these minor filings. Do you support the inquiry or not? If not why not with the mountain of evidence we have clearly proving the Biden family was getting paid off by foreign money.
     
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    We HAVE that evidence, the HARD evidence, the ACTUAL records and the ACTUAL sworn testimony, the ACTUAL email exchanges, the ACTUAL text message exchanges, the ACTUAL White House records of the business associates of Hunter visiting the White House on multiple occasions because Biden's finances were being run through the companies, we have the ACTUAL pictures of Biden attending the meetings and dinners he previous denied and on and on and on and on............if all the is NOT evidence then what would be evidence for you?
     
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    Why then you MAGA types are all set !

    Will this be a criminal indictment or articles of Impeachment in the House and a trial in the Senate ?
     
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    What is a "MAGA" type?

    They are not mutually exclusive. A special prosecutor presents charges to the AG who reports to the Congress the DOJ is seeking prosecution and the Congress should act to remove him from office so they can proceed.

    Why do you support a President who has been selling out the country to enrich his family and himself?
     
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    Yes, it originated in WH counsel’s office which should shift the perception also. Details, details.
     
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    A MAGA type is a Trump supporter who blindly supports and defends the Orange Stain beyond reason and fact. Part of their defense is to attack others.

    He hasn't. I support Biden because he beat the Orange Stain in a free, fair and secure election and is fixing a lot of the damage done by Trump.

    You and the other MAGA types haven't proven a thing. There are no pending cases, indictments or articles of impeachment for "selling out the country to enrich his family and himself". Since you raised that topic, your judgement for actions of that nature are highly questionable: you accepted Trump's act of putting his business assets in a trust run by his sons and one other executive during his presidency, but not a blind trust. Trump profited from business he steered to his properties during his presidency. You accepted that the $2 billion "investment" to Kushner wasn't a payoff despite Kushner's zero experience in investment and the objections of the Saudi advisors.
     
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    Didn't vote for him the first time, don't support him this time. I defend the Constitution and the law against those who beyond reason want to use it against their political opponent. Part of their defense is label others as if that refutes what they say.

    What has been fixed by Biden? Again he has, why do you support a President whose family is using his office to enrich themselves to the tune of tens of millions of dollars from our worst foreign adversaries? I could label you a MAABR type.

    I haven't the evidence has proved what we know why do you keep denying it? There is the pending Hunter Biden case what are you talking about. You know the one the Biden DOJ is trying to cover up and tried to sneak in the sweetheart deal the judge picked up on and threw out.

    I have no problem if the Biden family was involved in a legitimate established private business. So tell me what was the legitimate product or service the Biden family was selling to our worst foreign adversaries for their tens of millions which were being launder to hide who was paying it and to whom it was going. Prove the $2 billion is in the private bank accounts of the Trump family. Prove it was launder through almost two dozen shell companies to try and hide it.

    Is this your admittance you know the Biden's were doing something illegal but you think something the Trump family did mitigates it and makes them above the law?
     
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    Not at all. I'm happy to let due process deal with the Orange Stain and his family.

    As for the Bidens , you have proven nothing. Nor has the "evidence" to which you refer, vague and ethereal. Every time you write "we know" , I instantly know you are making stuff up. Attributing knowledge to some undefined "we" is an admission that you are hoping someone else in your collective "knows" something because you don't.

    When you get together something you can take to court, I'll happily watch the due process unfold. As for your claim to "defend the Constitution", that is contradicted by your rhetoric and the fact you keep asking for proof of negatives and your assumptions that the Bidens are criminals yet the Trumps are not.
     
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    Due process meaning a cover up at the DOJ? That due process? Due process is giving Hunter a heads up they were going to do a search? Due process being giving Hunter a heads uo they were going to interview him?

    The known facts, evidence does. Why can't you tell wha was this legitimate business was that made the Biden family MULTI millionaires from money from our worst foreign adversaries.

    The ninvestigation was a cover uo and I am not rhe prosecutor.

    Where have I asked you to prove a negative. I have asked you to simply explain the above.
     
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    'Radar Online is an American entertainment and gossip website ' lol
     
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    Conjecture. Proof of nothing. What "two dozen shell companies"? I'd ask for a link, but I already know that you have none.
     
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    Why did you?
     
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    You don’t know about the shell companies? Really?

    How the Biden family used shell companies to enrich themselves

    Members of the Biden family and their business associates raked in millions of dollars from foreign entities during and after Joe Biden’s time as vice president, using nearly two dozen companies and taking advantage of a vast network of sketchy business associates.

    The now-first family, their associates, and the companies took in at least $10 million just from firms run by Chinese and Romanian nationals through various deals struck by first son Hunter Biden, according to records subpoenaed from four separate banks by the Republican-led House Oversight Committee.

    However, other information suggests the Bidens earned tens of millions of dollars more than that

    In a 36-page memo released Wednesday, the committee revealed funds initially flowed from the foreign entities to at least 20 companies, most of which were LLCs created while Joe Biden was President Barack Obama’s vice president and run by Hunter’s business friends. The money was then doled out in smaller amounts to other family members.

    “These complicated financial transactions appear to conceal the source of the funds and reduce the conspicuousness of the total amounts made into the Biden bank accounts,” the committee said in the memo.


    https://nypost.com/2023/05/10/how-the-bidens-used-shell-companies-to-enrich-themselves/
     
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    Isn't your username an old disco song?

    Anyway, yes, Trump would sell you to the highest bidder. If he could get a good price. But you don't come here to discuss and understand, so I won't bother.
     
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    How is Biden facing jail time? He has zero charges against him...

    Why would they do that? There is no evidence.
     
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    You don't know about the shell companies? Really?

    'What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us
    What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us about his income and his businesses.'

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/what-trump-s-disclosure-his-500-llcs-can-can-t-n874391



    Trump Campaign Shell Corporation Funneled $617 Million ...
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    Dec 19, 2020 — Earlier this year, Campaign Legal Center (CLC) filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) alleging that the Trump Campaign ...


    Trump's Shell Company
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    Trump's Shell Spending Scheme Comes Under DOJ Scrutiny
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    Feb 16, 2023 — Former President Donald Trump's Save America PAC raised tens of millions of dollars on false claims of election fraud, and now the feds want to ...
     
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    Oh good, the MAGA types have their panties in a twist over a few million that Hunter conned from Ukraine ?

    It pales in comparison to the MAGA-con run by the Orange Stain. What’s a few hundred million between felons ?
     
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    The main issue with the GOP is to win the WH in 2024. With a January 6th conviction, if Trump is convicted, the Independents will more than likely not vote for him in large numbers and instead will vote for Biden or not vote at all in the general election. that means Trump won't be able to win the swing votes or the swing states, which means the Electoral College will favor biden, not Trump. And Independents are the ones and the only group that decides who is in the WH, period. Not party members of the GOP or the DNC.

    That being said, if Trump is convicted, then the Republican National Committee will have a very hard decision to make, to allow Trump to continue as a convicted criminal or to withdraw his name from consideration. And only the Republican National Committee can make that choice. Either choice is bad for the GOP IMO when it comes to the general election.
     
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    the 25th amendment is not going to be invoked. For that to be invoked, it has to be agreed upon by the Senior Administration officials, including the VP, not a lawsuit. And for Congress to do it, it has to be both the House and the Senate. And that is not going to happen either.
     
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    What was those reforms? To get rid of corruption in Ukraine. And yes, it did include the removal of then Chief Prosecutor of Ukraine in that letter. And again, it was before Biden went to Ukraine. I was only off by 5 months compared to some statements by Trump supporters that it was AFTER Biden's visit BTW.

    But then again, your whole link disproves the entire GOP argument that Biden used undue influence towards Ukraine. And you don't even know it.
     
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    Good grief, first you were wrong about who signed the letter, then the dates of the letters, now somehow the links I provided absolve Biden. lol

    There's more....

    As late as January 2016, the CIA was dumping on claims that Shokin was crooked.

    When rumors started to buzz in-country that further aid money was tied to Shokin’s ouster, the agency responded with a literal “Yikes.”

    So said agency Ukraine expert Eric Ciaramella, later adding (of a DC meeting with senior leaders from Shokin’s office): “We were super impressed with the group, and we had a two-hour discussion of their priorities and the obstacles they face.”

    “Super impressed” does not sound anywhere close to “this guy is crooked and must go.”

    Biden’s turned the tale of his move against Shokin into one of his fake tough-guy anecdotes, bragging to the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018 that on his December 2015 trip to Kyiv, “I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a b—. He got fired.”

    But it sure doesn’t sound like anyone else in the White House thought Shokin was corrupt.

    You know who did consider Shokin bad news, though?

    Hunter’s former partner, Devon Archer.

    Archer told former Fox host Tucker Carlson on his new show that Shokin “was a threat.”

    Why? Because “he ended up seizing assets” from Burisma’s owner Mykola Zlochevsky, who reportedly told a credible FBI informant that he had paid $10 million in bribes to Hunter and Joe.

    Team Obama loved Victor Shokin, so why did Joe Biden get him fired? (msn.com)
     

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