Biden Is Against MAGA

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  1. RodB

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    I'm totally surprised you never heard of the giant media platforms openly and overtly censoring and banning conservatives, Republicans, and especially Trumpers, or never heard of the overt and blatant attempt by Democrats to get publishers to not publish books and periodicals from that same group, or the overt push to get academics and many businesses to not hire people of the Trump/conservative persuasion. Gosh, it was in all the papers and all over the media. I on the other hand am not surprised that there is no similar action by Republicans (and especially me) against the Democrats and leftists even though this has not been all over the media.

    Democracy? What triggers me is the Democrats running roughshod over the voting process in 2020 and the blatantly anti-democratic and unconstitutional HR-1 that they have been pushing for years now. Violence? What triggers me is the Democrats condoning and even sometimes abetting the disastrous riots of 2020, and the lambasting and defunding of police. Fascism? What triggers me is Biden's not condemning fascism but instead condemning Republicans and calling them fascists as he delivers a fascistic speech with a backdrop that could have been taken straight out of Mussolini
     
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    MAGA just like BBB are political slogans. The main purpose of a political slogan is to attract supporters to purchase items to fund the candidate.
    The question is what was Trumps message… Make America Great Again?
    The answer is… it is whatever the individual thinks it means to them personally.
    Each individual decides from themselves the meaning of MAGA… negatively or positively.

    I was offering an idea of what I thought Trump meant based on his personality traits. Not my personal thoughts concerning America’s greatness.
    It was a misunderstanding. I did not argue your point.
     
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    Biden did not take a page out of the Trump & MAGA playbook. Biden used his party’s playbook. No.
    Thank You, for the :nana:double rolling eyes. :roflol:
     
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    The intellectualization of spirituality is religion, and like all intellectual things, it has a birth, life, and death. The spirit, OTOH, is permanent [with no birth, life, or death].

    In other words, the spirit is not something man creates [like religion], instead, it is something he manifests while he is alive. After his death, it goes back to the One.

    Remember, all religious writings are simply pointing the way. The popularity of the bible [although still enormous] will ebb and flow with society along the sine curve.
     
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    Thank you for your insight and in-depth analysis.
     
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    That is certainly the chosen campaign theme for this upcoming election! The Dems on the Sunday shows were obsessed with using the word "MAGA", just as Biden was in his divider-in-chief speech. When asked any question, it's almost comical how they clearly feel compelled to insert the term MAGA into their response, even when it's impossible to do so in a manner which makes any sense.
     
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    In watching the way they do this stuff, I'm reminded of a comedy skit where a black person is referred to by someone else as being black- and is shocked to learn that they are black.
    Is it possible these people are unaware of the nature of their conduct? NO. It's far too focused, far too obviously motivated by the same reasons- and none of those reasons are respectable values.
    They know. They lack the character to acknowledge it- and think enough of the public is stupid and blind enough to not see it for what it is.
    This is how the architects of the left think. Everything is upside down in their world.
    Example- Another post this morning mentions the Illinois "Safe-T act", where a summary article tells the whole story. Ask yourself how any responsible person can do what they have done.

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    I don't know where they are but you can bet your bottom dollar that they would be virtually impossible to find on Google or YouTube. Anything that even hints of anything exculpatory from the agenda gets buried in a NY minute..
    The vast majority, like 99%, of the people who went to the Capitol were waving banners and flags, singing songs, talking selfies and videos, chatting with neighbors, and maybe looking for T-shirts and hot dogs to buy.
    You completely missed @spiritgide 's point.
     
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    I think, The current Democrat Party’s strategy resembles “The process was known as Gleichschaltung” Goal “one state party”

    https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/germany-1933-democracy-dictatorship/

    Germany 1933: From Democracy to Dictatorship

    “On 23 March 1933, the Reichstag met in Berlin. The main item on the agenda was a new law, the 'Enabling Act'. It allowed Hitler to enact new laws without interference from the president or Reichstag for a period of four years.”

    “In his speech, Hitler gave those present the choice between 'war and peace'. It was a veiled threat to intimidate any dissenters. The process was by no means democratic. With 444 votes in favour and 94 against, the Reichstag adopted the Enabling Act. It was to form the basis of the Nazi dictatorship until 1945.”

    Gleichschaltung of society
    Now that Hitler had become so powerful, it was time for the Nazis to bring society in line with the Nazi ideal. The process was known as Gleichschaltung. Many politically-suspect and Jewish civil servants were dismissed. Trade unions were forcibly replaced by the Deutsche Arbeitsfront. This allowed the Nazis to prevent workers from organising any opposition.

    All existing political parties were banned. From mid-July 1933 onwards, Germany was a single-party state. Cultural and scientific ‘cleansings’ were carried out as well.

    According to the Nazis, everything ‘un-German' had to disappear. Books written by Jewish, left-wing, or pacifist writers were burned.
     
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    It's comically sad how the left minions are trying to wrestle a patriotic slogan away from millions of patriotic Americans. It's seems so similar to what Nazis did to Jews where they made them wear a badge identifying them as enemies of the State. The stigmatization of anyone said to be a MAGA supporter is also considered automatically as a facist. Calling us racist became ineffective when Biden came out of the closet as a racist during an interview with a black man that wasn't sure Biden deserved his vote. The new game is to call us fascists.
     
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    Adolf Biden’s Speech Had It All Backward.

    'Mr. Trump and his followers are antifascists: They want the state to stand aside, to impose the least possible interference and allow market forces and entrepreneurial energies to work. Freedom isn’t fascism. Mr. Biden and his vast tribe are enemies of freedom, although most of them haven’t thought the matter through. Freedom, the essential American value, isn’t on their minds. They desire maximum—that is, total—state or party control of all aspects of American life, including what people say and think.' Too much of 'the left yearns for power and authoritarian order. Freedom is forfeit.'

    'Americans, lamenting the divisions of 2022 and, some of them, entertaining fantasies of a new civil war, should refresh their historical memories. The country has been bitterly divided against itself any number of times. The hatreds and convulsions of the 1930s (the era of Huey Long and Father Charles Coughlin and the Silver Shirts, of homegrown tribes of Trotskyists and Stalinists) culminated in the ferocious battle between isolationists and internationalists that lasted until the Sunday morning of Pearl Harbor.'

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    64 days until we begin restoring the Rule of Law to the Rogue Executive branch.
     
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    BULLSHIT. STOP SPREADING DONALD JUDAS TRUMP'S BIG LIE AND ONGOING COUP ATTEMP. SIX YEARS OF FORUM CRED SHREDDED BECAUSE OF THE LIES OF A DAY-GLO SIDESHOW GRIFTER? PRETTY FECKIN' PATHETIC. NsphD.gif

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    Conservatives Hype New Theory Blaming FBI, Ray Epps For Capitol Riot (dailydot.com)

    STOP TRYING TO MAKE PEPE SYLVIA HAPPEN. IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. bullshit-bs-smiley-emoticon.gif

     
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    It wouldn't do any good.
     
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    You have to respect a man who recognizes his limitations!

    Seriously, though, I believe your comment would apply to 99.99% of all conversations. THIS is the problem with ideology.
     
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    No that's the problem with religion.
     
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    Why use a graph that stops before Trump?
    Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over (LES1252881600Q) | FRED | St. Louis Fed (stlouisfed.org)

    Oh, thats why.
     
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    I think we're close to the death of the dogma.
     
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    I used two graphs with the first one more descriptive and the second one more complete, although I left out the period including the covid pandemic (see the final graph below) because it would be unfair to Trump.


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    Back to Obama era employment, service sector, would you like fries with that?
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    Too many people entered the Capitol during the riot to make it 99%. I don't buy the "we were just acting like tourists..." any more than I buy leftwing protesters attending events that turn into riots saying they were peaceful. Maybe all the peaceful protesters, left and right, should grasp they're adding to the problem by hanging around during a riot.
     
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    Brandon & Co.'s use of Independence Hall as a stage prop for his partisan demagoguery was appalling in its cynicism, but the set design was so over the top it was laughably cartoonish. The crack in the tweet about the background looking like "the Soviet Union and Hitler had a baby" was typical of the ridiculous and creepy impression it left with many people. Yet, in many ways ridiculous was the perfect setting for the Divider-in-Chief's insane rant.
     
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    What does this have to do with my comment about real wages not going up for the past four decades?

    Unemployment ...

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    ... went down steadily from 2010 onward until the covid pandemic.

    Economic growth during Obama's last three years was almost identical to Trump's first three.

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    No more than we are getting close to the death of any other intellectual pursuit.

    Human beings always want the easy way out, a free lunch. Unfortunately, there is no easy way out nor free lunch. If you want to find the truth of the matter, then you must do the hard work...something very, very few are willing to do.

    Religion [the dogma] is only supposed to point towards the truth. You should open your mind to the moral lessons religion teaches, as without them the world would be considerably worse off than what it is now.
     
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    Real wages don't come from service sector job creation or JOBS :) And if you look at the graph that's the jobs coming back under ByDummy and the same thing under his mentor Mr.Obatard.

    Really, it all ties in to the thread and some of the propaganda within ;)
     
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    Well said!
     
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