Biden plans to ask Congress for funding to develop new COVID vaccine, may require shot for all

The powers of Congress are explicit, not implied.
The elastic clause requires an underlying power to have any effect:

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

Does the Constitution say that Congress has the power to release funds from the treasury or no?

 

See: US Constitution, Article I Section 8, clauses 1-18

 

Cool. So Congress can exact spending for the general welfare of the US. Interesting.

 

Congress must legislatively appropriate funds released form the treasury; the power to create legislation to that effect is limited to the powers granted to Congress.
Nothing in the constitution gives Congress the power to enact legislation with regard to health care.
Absent that grant of power, Congress can't do it.

 

Why do you think that health care is completely unrelated to the welfare of the US?

 

How sophomoric..
As addressed by Madison in Federalist 41:
The general welfare clause is neither a statement of ends nor a substantive grant of power - It is a“synonym” for the enumeration of particular powers, which are limited and wholly defined in its content by the following clauses.

 

See post #82.
Nothing in the constitution gives Congress the power to enact legislation with regard to health care.
Absent that grant of power, Congress can't appropriate funds for it.

 

Why is it "sophomoric" to read what the Constitution literally says?

This dodge does not answer my question.

 

You are claiming that health care has nothing to do with the welfare of the country. Your claim is true in that fantasy world. Not in the real one.

See above.

 

It does.
It also negates your argument.
That you choose to not understand how is your issue.
Back into the pit.

 

No. It doesn't. You are literally claiming that health care has nothing to do with the welfare of the country. Which is, I'm sure even you will agree, an insane take. Back into the pit. That you choose not to understand how is your issue.

 

The post you originally replied to.

No, you're confusing me with somebody else. I have never relayed my personal covid-19 experiences.

My condolences. Try the influenza-vaccine next time if you are susceptible to it. Or alternatively believe conspiracy horseshit and decline.

Deliver what exactly? Yours only lasted 12hrs comes to mind for starters.

It's almost as though you are saying because you caught something that wasn't covid-19 and it compared to one symptom that is possible from covid-19 (that didn't actually specify the shorter duration 12hrs you experienced) then that must be the yardstick to measure every flu and covid-19 case. But of course you definitely wouldn't imply or say something as ridiculously dumb as that.

So, please explain unequivocally what your point is.

 

Yes but it doesn't give the federal government the power to engage in public health (or about 70% of what federal government actually does). In fact it places it in the states.

 

Those that are constitutional.

 

Yes, FOX 'news' does it again.

Biden: I recommended everybody get it

FOX: Everyone will be required to take it

Textbook example of fake news.

Looks like its also old "news".

He can request money, and Congress can decide to authorize it or deny it. Knowing its a GOP Congress and a matter of politicized public health issue, it is almost guaranteed to be denied.

Foreign drug makers will develop and market a new vaccine and Americans will depend on them when/if its needed.

 

Of course the Constitution mandates the government to act in case of an epidemic or pandemic which can kill millions of citizens. It would be absurd to argue Constitution doesn't allow it.

At this time there is no pandemic, so this is about being pro-active / taking precautions. Covid was painted as a conspiracy and a nothing-burger even though it killed over a million citizens, but since it was politicized to death, the GOP will disallow any and all precautions in regards to it. God help us if it returns in a deadlier form. In Florida masks have been criminalized in the sense that business owners are forbidden by law to request their customers wear a mask no matter how bad the situation is.

 

How is public health not public welfare?

 

And how are laws regarding public health unconstitutional?

 

Your Fox News story:

President Biden said Friday he plans to request additional funding from Congress for the development of a new COVID-19 vaccine, adding he may require everyone to take it whether they previously received a vaccine or not.

Biden, who is vacationing in the Lake Tahoe area, was asked by a reporter on Friday if he could say anything about the uptick of COVID cases and a new variant.

"Yes, I can," the president said. "I signed off this morning on a proposal we have to present to Congress a request for additional funding for a new vaccine that is necessary, that works."

He added, "Tentatively it is recommended that it will likely be recommended everybody get it no matter whether they’ve gotten it before or not."​

Your trash news takes "recommended" to "require."

 

Uh huh. Better to continue paying for people who end up in the hospital instead of them having a shot effective against all variants.

 

This sure looks like another shoot-from-the-hip argument.

 

Crackpot nonsense you heard somewhere.

 

No, the rMNA vaccines saved a lot of lives.





In Canada, the unvaccinated 15% did 48% of the dying.

 

I keep hearing that, then every day New York had more COVID deaths than Texas despite vaccination requirements and a lockdown. I'll trust an international data source with nothing to prove son.