Bill Clinton speech at dnc.....

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  1. beth115

    beth115 New Member Past Donor

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    The story of their relationship minus his cheating and her bashing of the young women he exploited instead of bashing him, so much for supporting women. A waste of time what do you expect he would say. " you shouldn't vote for her she lies, our foundation is crooked, she compromised the countries security?".

    These conventions are only a means to bash the other parties candidate. Not to actually choose a candidate as they have already won. So instead of wasting millions the conventions could last one day. Announce the winner and give them time to speak to the delegates. Period.
     
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    Sour grapes. Did Donald Trump mention his infidelities and serial polygamy? You seem to apply a stricter standard if the speaker is a Democrat.

    Bill Clinton's speech was very uplifting, and you could feel the electric effect that it had on the crowd. It had that effect on me, too, even though I'm not a member of his party. It reminded me that the Bill Clinton administration was the only period in modern history when the working and middle classes made economic gains. There were help-wanted signs all over the place, and the government even operated with a budget surplus. It was an economic golden age for ordinary Americans. Then came Bush jr. with his big budget deficits and the accompanying economic disaster for all but the very wealthy. Bush's rich buddies, people like Donald Trump, were the only ones who continued to prosper.

    Maybe Hillary Clinton can take us back to that golden age of the Bill Clinton administration. Donald Trump is obviously out for no one but himself.
     
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    It was an excellent speech! Telling a good story is a great way to grab the interest of the crowd. Omitting the unpleasant details is not lying by omission because those details are well documented. Celebrating the great things in a person's life is not a crime. I'm not a huge fan of Hillary Clinton, but Bill Clinton is a great advocate for her.
     
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    Then why did Rachel Maddow the liberal queen of cable news hate it soooooo much?

    Rachel Maddow: Bill Clinton's Convention Speech Was Not Very Feminist; "Shocking And Weird"

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._was_not_very_feminist_shocking_and_rude.html

    So why didn't he mention her one of the most successful commoditites trading stints in the history of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. I mean to take $1,000 and turn it into $100,000 in just a matter of months surely deserves some comment didn't it?

    But is was interesting listening to explain how she had ridden his coat-tails up the ladder and how she cared about , and spoke about, and listened to this and that, but then was so empty on actual accomplishments.
     
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    It was a boring waste of time trying to create this false image of this loving couple and some kind of respect between them when we know their marriage has been a remains one of political convenience on which she has ridden his coat-tails rather than accomplished anything on her own.
     
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    Hillary was pretty good looking back in the day.
     
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    Is that supposed to go along with your sig line?
     
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    He had the crowd in the palm of his hand the moment he opened his mouth.

    His effort to personalize his wife stands in sharp contrast to the vapid and impersonal speech that Melina Trump gave about her husband last week.

    One came from the heart, the other came from Google.
     
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    Yep, after 25 years on the national scene her disapproval is at 60% and she urgently needs to be personalized and humanized. Duh Lest we forget that she needs to have her list of achievements padded cause it's empty and her professional qualities need to be "professionalized" somehow cause according to the FBI she is recless, extremely careless, negligent and a danger to national security lol
     
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    Melina's comments about Trump were shallow platitudes (see my siggy). Bill was able to in great detail give examples of Hillary's life long service and volunteer work. I was impressed by all that she's done.
     
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    humanizing hillary is like humanizing a slug. its just not possible.

    worst DNC candidate ever. Dukakis and Kerry were princes compared to this corrupt and incompetent mutt.
     
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    Actually, I knew who Donald Trump was years before I ever heard of Hillary Clinton.
     
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    He was a democrat then, please don't tell me your hated him lol
     
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    I'd be bitter if I was watching the DNC convention too...its awesome compared to the depressing, half-empty crap fest that trump put on.

    I would rather listen to Hillary and Bill who are still married rather than listen to trump's mail-order anchor mistress/hooker badly read a speech stolen from Michelle Obama.

    Anyone who would bash the Clinton's marriage while they support trump is too much of a pathetic hypocrite to even bother with.
     
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    I knew exactly who he was, and what kind of man he was. My opinion has not changed one bit.
     
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    He sounded like a dirty old man. He is not aging well. He also sounded like a predator stalking her.
     
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    What was left of them? :roflol: And reports even more began to leave during it as no ones cares about their love affair anymore we all know their marriage was a sham.

    Might have been more interesting if he had touched on how she made that killing in the commodities market, a truly stellar achievement showing how knowledgeable she is about business and markets and such. Wonder why he didn't got there.

    Which begs the question why at this point are they so desperate to have to do so?
     
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    Yes, Bill's speech was almost as sincere as Hillary's eulogy of KKK Senator Robert Byrd, her "friend and mentor". Remembering his five decades of dedicated service. Never mentioning that he never met a civil rights bill or a black Supreme Court nominee he liked.

    http://observer.com/2010/06/hillary-clinton-remembers-friend-and-mentor-robert-byrd/
     
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    I had my dream girl in life (passed in 1998), and remember well the meeting and our not so many years together and talk to her every night. I'm sure many of you recall your dream person, how you met, where and everything else, but very few of you, messed around on the side. As for change, she hasn't done much of that in all her public years, including husbands, so why would she now, especially feeling obligated to the current administration, if she happens to win. As for looks, yes she was and frankly for her age, not really that bad today. Bush 41's wife (Barbara) was my favorite first lady, wonderful person, but looked her age.
     
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    Bill’s desperate bid to humanize Hillary shows fear she might lose.....

    Here’s a fact to chew on: Much of Day Two at the convention was spent trying to humanize Hillary Clinton. After 25 years in public life, she feels the need to tell us she cares.

    A parade of speakers warmed up the crowd by telling stories about her compassion, some of it very long ago. Getting money for New Yorkers after 9/11, helping children get health insurance, securing health care for veterans.

    This being a coronation, the circumstances grew in grandeur with each telling, until they made her sound like Mother Teresa. She’s so profoundly kind and tireless and honest and so full of grace, “she defies gravity.”

    But wait, there’s more — she’s tough, too. Single-handedly, she practically made peace in the Mideast, forged progress on climate change, and forced Iran to the negotiating table.

    The details were charming in a routine way, but the whole exercise had a bizarre quality. Hours after she became the first woman to be the presidential nominee of a major party, America had to be reminded that she was both ordinary and extraordinary at the same time.

    The only possible reason is that the Clintons’ jubilation is mixed with fear. The polls are telling a terrifying story — Donald Trump really could win.

    One of the reasons is the rising tide of Americans who don’t trust Hillary, a full 68 percent in a recent survey. It is a trend that is potentially fatal to her quest. Hence the desperate bid to humanize her, to make her more trustworthy by telling people why they should admire her.....snip~

    http://nypost.com/2016/07/27/bills-d...-lose/?ref=yfp
     
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    I don't know where you got that. I suppose someone on one of your right wing talk radio shows made it up.
     
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    You weren't trying to deny the reality that the Sanders supporters walked out.....are you Tom?

    - - - Updated - - -

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    Analysis: Folksy, Impeached President Endorses Scandal-Plagued, Disliked Wife.....

    Tonight, Bill Clinton strode into the spotlight once again, this time to work his magic on behalf of his wife. He did well, I think, but didn't alter the trajectory of the race. That's not to say that Hillary won't get a boost out of Philadelphia; she very probably will, as Trump did after Cleveland. But that was not a lightning strike address. It wasn't even the best speech of the first half of the convention. Still, it was pretty clear what he was trying to do. Before the big address, Megyn Kelly asked me if I thought Bill would seek to rescue Hillary's drowning honesty numbers, which are deservedly and truly awful.

    Clinton painted a portrait of a technocratic workhorse (committees! task forces!) who genuinely cares about people, and has channeled those sentiments into a lifetime of tireless public service. That was the whole point of his at times meandering reminiscences about their early life together. And putting a human face on a woman seen by many as power-hungry and calculating is precisely why he devoted quite a lot of time to describing Hillary as a mother. (I don't think talking about Hillary's water breaking was simply tossed in casually). Along the same lines, Chelsea will undoubtedly lay the "grandma" color on thick on Thursday night. The former president traced his timeline up into the present day -- skipping certain unhelpful bits, like the year 1998 -- and adorning Hillary's tenure at the State Department with the most impressive-sounding "achievement" language he could summon. His only partisan shots were a brief jab about mocking the disabled, and the suggestion that everything at the RNC last week was "made up." In fairness, he is something of an expert on the subject of making things up. He didn't need to go uber-partisan, as he did four years ago, because his objectives were different this time. Bill Clinton can read a poll as well as anyone else; he knows that most people already dislike Donald Trump. This was about boosting Hillary's very slight and narrowing favorability advantage, not trying to drive Trump's stratospheric unfavorability numbers any higher. His wife, he said, is serious and committed. The real deal. Believe him, he's witnessed it for decades firsthand.

    Bill Clinton hasn't lost his touch as a marvelous political communicator, but there's only so much he could work with here. His effort was admirable and solid nonetheless. But I suspect it didn't deliver the memorable political juice that his 2012 outing did....snip~

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...-wife-n2198515
     
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    From watching the convention and listening to interviews from delegates talking about the people hired to fill empty seats.
     
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    Oh, OK, Fox Noise.
     

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