Biological Male Wins World Championship in Women's Cycling

You can’t reverse a body from male to female. You can physically mutilate it and corrupt the endocrine system with hormones and drugs.

Mutilaion and hormones no more change gender than they would turn me in to Napoleon.

 

A biological male does and he also has the frame from birth to carry extra muscle, etc. Biologically, what sex you are born makes a huge difference.

 

That's just false.
You are a science denier and a science corrupter.

Tendons definitely will as they are the anchors for hard working muscles and I note how you cherry pick
bones alone as a sign that men are not inherently advantaged over women in terms of athletic performance. That's just bullshit!

Testosterone makes for stronger and bigger muscles. Did you see the picture of the tranny I posted standing next to the 2nd and 3rd place finishers? Her (his) legs were noticeably bigger and stronger. And you also ignore how the CV system of males, due to an inherently larger heart and blood pumping capability, gives a transgendered woman a natural and indisputable advantage over biological women.
Your arguments are as weak as can be. They are pathetically desperate.

Spoken from a place of ignorance of the subject.
You are truly a politically motivated science denier.

 

Having the frame for it doesn't mean heshe actually has all of that muscle. You are falling back on hypotheticals and unsubstantiated arguments at this point. Anyway, I could counter with the equally silly claim that that extra bone weight slows a transgender athlete down (without the corresponding muscle mass to compensate, which a transgender athlete will be missing due to the lack of testosterone).

 

Your anti science anti biological argument is really sad.

Men are inherently stronger than women. Basic biology has made that clear. Why do you hate science?

 

I think there is a misunderstanding here. Just because some of us live in reality doesn’t mean we hate transgender people. In fact everyone I know would like to help them.

 

I think it's puberty where this major change happens until then boys and girls are very similar and then we diverge massively.

Why don't we just have separated TS games, it would make a change

 

"Extra bone weight"? You aren't grasping at straws anymore. You are flailing at them.
Muscles carry weight around. That extra mass isn't a handicap...it's an advantage.
Look at the picture. Listen to the runner up and what she thinks about the transgendered bicyclist. Listen to science. Stop with the ridiculous
dodging.
And I suppose the bigger heart and lung capacity means nothing to you as well?
Thanks for the humor your argument provides.

 

I'd better stop. You people are really starting to make an embarrassing spectacle of yourselves now.

 

Yes I'd say that too if I couldn't even acknowledge basic science between the sexes.

 

If athletic performance is all in your head, scalpel and pill bottle why aren’t transgender men taking men’s athletics by storm?

 

You really should if you have any self dignity at all. You are denying basic human physiology.

 

If the other women that participated had no problem with a mtf competitor and the sponsors had no objections I am not seeing what the issue is here? Why not let them choose to participate or not instead of trying to make their choices for them?

 

Who says the other bicyclists had no problems with a transgendered male? Did you poll them? Did anyone ask them?
The third place finisher certainly had problems with a formerly male competitor. And how many racers are too afraid to speak out?

 

Their participation was my measurement.
If you think you are being unfairly penalized from the start - who would compete?
How do you know she had problems with a mtf competitor? I admit I just skimmed the article and the thread so I may have missed it. Care to point it out?

The point is until these places start losing participation or sponsorship we can expect this to continue.
It’s a private event so I just don’t see why there are 13 pages of people upset they are allowing this to happen - especially when the bulk of the people upset about this are advocates of “free enterprise” and companies and individuals being able to “associate” which who they want without repercussion.

 

Who would compete? How about someone who wasn't aware of a trans bicyclist in the event? Or someone whose politics were more important to her than personally wining the race? Or someone who made lots of personal sacrifices to compete
and didn't want all her training time and expenses to go to waste so she raced anyway, suspecting full well she had no chance of winning.

How do I know the 3rd place finisher said she felt "cheated" by the transsexual winner? Because she said so. Read the source material.

This is not a question of free association. It is a matter of fairness and leftist politics trumping a level playing field for all competitors.
Why should this amateur competition have to fall to such a state that it's future is in doubt before something gets done?
That's like saying until our school system gets to be so bad that most kids flunk out we should expect no changes to be made.
What sort of standard is that?

 

I think it would be worth putting some lipstick on to win Wimbledon. Lot of money on it.

 

Well, maybe just you. Me? I'd like to stay and compete with women, mainly at wrestling.

 

Boycotting the event would have made much more of an impact

Like I said I just skimmed it - and I agree with her

I really hope you are not a Republican talking about fairness...

Unfortunately that’s what it takes, I’m not saying I agree - but comparing a private event to a public institution supported by taxpayer dollars isn’t a fair comparison.

Ultimately they are free to enact rules as they see fit.

 

I didn't move anything.
They have rules, no rules were broken AFAIK.
You are against this because of the far right.

 

You have no clue her testosterone level. She had to take testosterone fighting drug to get rid of testosterone according to a story I linked to.
I am sure the rules state what testosterone levels is allowed.
You only make it up that the transsexual had an inherent advantage. You have offered not a single shred of proof to anything you have claimed. Not a shred.

If she broke rules, point them out. Don't just spew stuff you are uneducated about.

 

You have no idea how much growth muscles this person had or hormones.
You do know those things very from person to person, yes?

 

Nope, you stated this is a cycling, not a partisan thing.

Rules have recently changed because of ideologies from the Left, like it or not and of course, showing it is partisan ideologies at work and not the sport of bicycling.

And if course, resort to calling anything you don't like "far right".

As a member of the mixed martial arts community, I can tell you with utmost certainty, the Fallon Fox incident proved to many that having male hormones for decades before has a major impact on how a human develops.

Fallon Fox is a TERRIBLE fighter, she wins through brute pressure and wild random strikes, followed with overpowering ground control. The only defense is that an incredibly talented woman beat her, which means nothing to the argument and is pretty sexist against women as well.

 

You do know that men have a much higher number than women, right?

20 Years of body development including things like hand size, are not reversed in 2 years of therapy. Even the doctors claiming it is "close enough" agree there is a discrepancy