Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Esau, Nov 23, 2022.
i never said it did.
just pointing out there are LOTS of Black Jews.
Our exchange began when you replied to my post that there is no black Israel.
Do you support Israel?
When Scottish minister Robert Kirk visited a London synagogue in 1690 he observed hundreds of worshippers there who he stated were all Black men - Shakespeare and the Jews p.171 - James Shapiro.
Up until relatively recently, Jews were considered part of the black race. Tudor Parfitt, and English historian notes that the Jews of antiquity were known for having African features.
So everything must have just threw history on its head in something similar to the so-called "southern strategy".
You would not perchance be a member of the Hebrew Israelites would you?
This is false. The Jews were never considered black or part of the black people.
They were always considered Caucasian.
Please provide a link or quote from Tudor Parfitt
Indeed. An integral part of that timeline, the whitewashing, was the involvement of Arthur Balfour (Balfour declaration). This Englishman who established a home for the White Jewish Europeans was an avowed white supremacist also. This alliance with the WJE was a relationship born of similar ideological principles.
We have to face the facts,” Lord Balfour said. “Men are not born equal, the white and black races are not born with equal capacities: they are born with different capacities which education cannot and will not change.”
This kind of rhetoric is commonly found within WJE academia also.
The Jewish encyclopedia states that the exiles from Judah in Iberia were Black and that they were the chief rabbis of all Israelite exiles throughout the Mediterranean.
prove it with a quote.
so far you have provided ZERO sources or links or quotes.
unfortunately, White Supremacy was the assumed truth by EVERYONE, until we became more enlightened in the middle of the 20th century.
The Spanish inquisition, also known as the BLACK death, was a period in Europe where black Jews were persecuted to the extent that it saw a mass exodus of black folk, both moor and Jew from the Iberian ports into north and west Africa..
the plague is merely metaphor, for the "scourge" that was "non- white" ppl.
Racism really starts to grow during this period (slavery)
True! And some Black Jews expelled from Spain to Turkey until today speak an old Spanish language called Latino, but because of the heavy use of Clorox they bleach they skin, so today they look like Whites.
Esau - you are true genius, it is time for you to create Esaupedia, to teach all poorly educates Jews the true history.
You are correct, the white Jewish europeans are Caucasian, which means they are from the caucus region, in Europe. Their name betrays their supposed heritage, ASHKEN. which is the name given to Germany in antiquity.
I think you're confusing jewISH Europeans (a religion) with the Judaeans (lineal descendants ) that were exiled to Spain 2000 years ago.
In medieval literature, Jews are referred to as being black, according to an emeritus professor at Tel Aviv university. Also the Jewish encyclopedia states that the exiles from Judah in Iberia were Black.
I understand that this type of information brings absolute dread to many but fear not, black ppl are humans too! This is Yahs plan.
Wrong. Semites and Arabs are considered to be part of the Caucasian race. That means that the original Israelites for the most part would today be considered a Caucasian. Dark skin Caucasian but still Caucasian. Just like the Arabs and The berbers and the Assyrians and the Persians and the Phoenicians and the Philistines.
You should provide some sources and quotes for your claims because I think they are all false and baseless.
the general ‘look’ of the Jew was considered to be like that of the black” - t. parfitt 2016 p.6.
“the Jews were quite literally seen as black” - gilman 1994 p.372.
"Tis also a vulgar error that the Jews are all black; for this is only true of the Portuguese Jews" - François Maximilien Misson (1650–1722),
Clearly Francois is referring to the white Jewish Europeans who at this time had amassed a considerable number of converts from Eastern Europe.
Btw, it was the Portuguese Jews that were the lineal descendants of Judah, that is an unbroken lineage. The Iberian/African Jews are the Jews the Bible speaks of, the biblical Jews, descendants of Judah as recorded in Portuguese archives.
Ronstar, if someone basis his theories on medieval texts he/she can prove almost everything, that the earth is flat, that diseases are work of demons, that rain is angels pee and that Jews are Blacks.
No doubt Jews heavy contributed to the world culture and some jealous racists ethnicities try to steal Jews glory. Anyone who can read the Bible in the original language will notice that the Bible talk about Blacks as someone different from Jews, but if some racist Blacks insist that that Jesus (original name Yehoshua HaNotzri), His Mother His Stepfather were Blacks – lets him argue with some White folks who insist that Jesus was a White with blond hair and blue eyes – probably Arian.
amen and this is the fundamental issue, that white supremacists have been attempting to claim Jesus was a caucusasian. This whitewashing of the messiahs image has been the bedrock of the European renaissance from the 15th century, coincidentally at the SAME time these very whites were taking millions of west Africans (real Jews) captive in the Americas AND ERASING THEIR TRUE IDENTITY to the point where those " west Africans" are now known as Smith and Jones.
The greatest story never told, until now.
So Sephardic Jews are black??
Nonsense. They are all Caucasians. Ive met many.
Before I proceed in offering more and more examples of how Jews of antiquity were considered as black, I'd like to first establish that racism is a curse.
Many a ppl and by extension, a nation, have been cursed with this affliction, most notably (and arguably, exclusively) the European/American/Australian regions.
Curses can be lifted but it takes a willingness, a rejection of ego (fantastical claims of grandiose/assumed identity). Britain and even America has made great strides in this but alas there is always one "runt of the litter" bringing shame to the "creed", the stubborn, prideful and insecure one.
This child is the WJE or as one might commonly know them as Israelis. A nation whose government is still living in the 17th century America, in terms of discourse/ideology. If there is one nation/ppl in the "west" still cursed with racism, it is this ppl. EVEN UKRAINIANS ARE NOW OPENLY DISTANCING THEMSELF FROM WHITE SUPREMACISTS WITHIN THEIR GOVERNMENT!
This is my opinion as Esau, the most notorious anti-racist blogger of the 21st century.
Francois Misson was born in Lyons, son of Jaques Misson (1619 - after 1695). He was a traveller, an author and at the start he became a judge in the 'chamber of the edict' in the parlement of Paris. With his family they moved to London in 1687.
He was employed as a tutor of Charles Butler, son of the first duke of Ormond. With him they undertook a Grand Tour, going through Germany and then visiting all the major cities of Italy. At the end of their trip Misson when to The Hague in 1691 to publish the "Nouveau voyage d'ltalie, avec un mémoire contenant des avis utiles à ceux qui voudront faire le mesme voyage", a work written in the form of letters, which was used for the following fifty years as a guide to Italy - British Museum.
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