BMW Ends ICE Production in Germany! Mercedes?

It will be interesting to see what the plan is.

It really doesn't make sense for one car manufacturer to be the provider of all the charging stations.

 

Yikes!
The Used EV Timebomb
By Paul Homewood
Our investigation found that many EVs could become almost impossible to resell because of their limited battery life.

Money Mail can today reveal a timebomb looming in the second-hand market for electric vehicles (EVs).

Our investigation found that many EVs could become almost impossible to resell because of their limited battery life.

Experts said that the average EV battery guarantee lasts just eight years. After this time, the battery may lose power more quickly and so reduce mileage between charges.

Many EVs will lose up to 12 per cent of their charge capacity by six years. Some may lose even more.

Yet the cost of replacing an EV battery is astonishingly high, our research found.

A five-year-old Renault Zoe costs £9,100 but a new battery will set you back £24,124

In some cases, the cost of a replacement battery is as much as £40,000. For certain EVs, the cost of replacing the battery could be ten times the value of the vehicle itself on the second-hand market.

That means used EVs have a limited lifespan — which makes them a bigger and bigger risk as the years go by. . . .

 

I'm sure there are old EVs that have old battery technology.

It's more than fair to warn about this when discussing old cars.

According to Tesla, Tesla car batteries are supposed to last around 300,000 to 500,000 miles though the warrantee is for 150,000 miles.

At the end, the battery may be recycled or used for other purposes.

Other EVs may be better or worse in this regard.


The same is true for ICE vehicles, as not many ICE vehicles last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles.

 

"According to Tesla, Tesla car batteries..." isn't much of a comfort.

 

Yeah, I don't do comfort very well.

I think you're going to be OK in the EV revolution.

The work you know about does need to be done, even if it is no more than towing a boat over a mountain pass to a favorite lake.

I hope that helps.

 

Ending this crap about a forced EV revolution is what will help. Let EVs compete on their merits. Which are very limited.

 

Lols! They are! Will ye or nil ye change is coming

 

Well, towing boats over mountain passes is not a big issue in “our mountains are molehills” Australia

Still think it is awesome that we can get from Darwin to Adelaide on solar alone

 

You seem pretty sure for being wrong.

 

My background is Electrical Engineering. If you would have asked me 20 years ago - “Will a battery-powered vehicle ever travel300 miles, I would have said, “No way”! This technology just keeps getting better and better!

 

At least the press releases are getting better.

 

EV's in Europe are heading toward a head-on collision with reality.
The German E-Vehicle Nightmare, 2024 Q1 Sales Plummet 14%… “Graveyard” For Unsold Cars
By P Gosselin on 7. May 2024

Der Spiegel reports: Germany e-car industry is a crisis headed for a catastrophe. New Tesla unsold cars now being parked in an old airfield.

Germany’s 2030 e-car target now a lunatic fantasy
Sales of e-cars in Germany are plummeting, signaling more trouble for the country’s move to a green society. Overall, for Q1 2024, EV sales declined by around 14.1% compared to Q1 of 2023. For Tesla, the picture is much uglier.



AI generated image of an e-car.

Just days ago, leftist online news magazine Der Spiegel published a video report looking at Tesla sales in Germany: “Friedhof der E-Autos – Die Mobilität der Zukunft steckt in der Krise” (Graveyard of e-cars – the mobility of the future is stuck in crisis).

Though the country would like to blame something else other than its terrible policies, this misery is not due to the Ukraine War.

As Spiegel reports, The cars are just too expensive and impractical, and the government has stopped subsidizing sales.

35% drop in Tesla new registrations

Der Spiegel focusses on Tesla’s Gigafactory located in Grünheide, roughly 30 kilometers southeast of central Berlin. The once electrifying future for the e-car maker has since turned into a huge nightmare. Though the Grünheide plant continues to churn out e-cars, Der Spiegel looks at where the 100s of truckloads of e-cars are in fact being being shipped. Unfortunately for Tesla, many are not going to buying customers. In Q1 of 2023, 20,000 new Teslas were registered in Germany, according to Der Spiegel. But this year in Q1, only 13,000 were registered – a whopping 35% drop!

Storage at an old airfield

Der Spiegel reporters followed the Tesla transport trucks and discovered that many are being shipped to an old airfield for storage. In the report, a Tesla security officer, however, arrives (in an internal combustion engine car) and refuses Spiegel to make photos of the embarrassing situation (4:24 mark). Tesla management refuse to comment on the mass electric car storage.

Overall in Germany, e-cars of just about every type have lost their attractiveness, and buyers are shunning them.

Green fantasy

As the popularity of electric cars in Germany tanks, the governments 2030 target of getting 15 million e-vehicles on the road now looks like a lunatic fantasy.

 

The European market is about to get tangled.
The ballyhoo for EV's is mostly sleight-of-hand.
EVs: The Reckoning Begins
Roger Caiazza
They wanted combustion engine cars out but forgot that these cars bring in billions in tax income. They wanted a fully electrified transport but forgot it wouldn’t bring in money…

Irina Slav on energy Substack is described as “All things energy. Challenging the dominant narrative because facts matter”. Her latest article “Post Ridiculous” describes the possible last straw for EV adoption.

Slav introduces her post with an extraordinary quote admitting that all is not right for EVs:

“We can’t push EVs into the market against demand.” Thus spoke the head of Ford’s European operations this week, commenting on the company’s plans to start diverting ICE car deliveries from the UK to the continent. Why? Because the UK has EV sales goals and if carmakers don’t align their business with these goals, they face substantial penalties.

“We are not going to sell EVs at huge losses just to buy compliance. The only alternative is to take our shipments of [engine] vehicles to the UK down and sell these vehicles somewhere else,” the brave man, by the name of Martin Sander, said, speaking at the FT’s Future of the Car conference in London.

https://www.ft.com/content/ff0f3966-0565-434b-81a7-9b2bb3c20e21

 

If you live in the UK or Europe, make that old car last.
Coercion is the alarmists' tool.
Ford Threatens to Ration Gasoline Vehicle Sales to Comply with UK Net Zero Diktats
Eric Worrall
Remember when we used to laugh about Soviets queuing for years to purchase an automobile?

 

That was then. This is now. Euros are bailing on EV's.
Mercedes and Volkswagen DITCH their EV ambitions! | MGUY Australia
MGUY Australia
Volkswagen and Mercedes aren’t the first automakers to get cold feet over their earlier ludicrous electrification promises in the face of clear market apathy, but we can be 100% sure…

 

Worldwide sales are up over 20% for 2024 so far. France is up, UK is up. Germany just slightly down after ending government incentives. Overall a strong year so far for EVs.

 

They face an uncertain future.
Electric Vehicle Sales Review Q1-2024

PwC
https://www.strategyand.pwc.com › automotive › electri...

Strategy& and PwC Autofacts® have analyzed electric vehicle sales worldwide in the first quarter of 2024.

. . . Prior to this quarter, trends in France, Germany and the UK were broadly following a similar trajectory. However, the market shares in Q1 revealed a significant gap – 17.9% in France and 15.5% in the UK, but only 11.7% in Germany. Indeed, for the first time, the UK overtook Germany in the absolute number of BEV sales (84,000 vs. 81,000 in Q1 2024).

Other European markets
The only significant BEV sales growth in the other European markets in the first quarter of 2024 was registered in the Netherlands, which saw an increase of 19.3% from the same period last year. BEV sales in Sweden, Norway and Austria all fell, while Switzerland enjoyed only a marginal increase.

 

Worldwide greater than 20% every year, and some years much higher than that. That’s about as certain as it gets.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Chase

https://www.google.com/search?sca_e...ate=ive&vld=cid:429809f0,vid:aCh4ldGlnb0,st:0

 

Not really. Numbers remain tiny in comparison. EV's are 1% of vehicles on the road in US. If charging station build-out stops, EV's are dead in the US.

 

Most EVs nowadays use batteries with "Depths of Discharge" resulting in over 5000 charges. Think about that. An EV doesn't typically need to be charged every day. For the sake of argument let's say an EV is charged about 200 times per year (which is probably way too high). That's 25 years! Mr. Homewood must be hard up for topics to pursue this line. I guess he has his article quota to meet for the biased WUWT.

 

Your post is mere denial of the data.

 

Yes it is! The bloke needs to use data from the 21st century.

 

The source article is dated 1 May 2024.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money...-impossible-sell-batteries-wont-affected.html

 

Makes no difference. The guys brain is living in the 1990s.