Boarders are Imaginary; Illegal Immigration is a Victimless Crime

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  1. atheiststories

    atheiststories Active Member

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    Illegal immigrants crossed and imaginary line. That's it. They didn't bring drugs and crime. They took a car ride, and to say otherwise is simply lying. I get that some did it, but once upon a time someone in a category you belong to did some thing wrong too.
     
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    And here folks we see a prime example of why the left have been absolutely massacred in the political field. So out of touch with reality and main stream America. They just make up (*)(*)(*)(*) to fit their agenda and expect everyone to just get in line and follow it.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The OPer is claiming Hitler did nothing wrong invading Poland, France, the USSR or any other country because there is no such thing as borders. If other countries had not opposed the invasion there would have been no problem. Besides, historically at one time or another nearly every country invaded another so its all good regardless. :roflol:
     
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    Illegal immigration is objectively not victimless. And borders are man made, but also objectively real. Such delusion.
     
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    What am I making up? Do you think the border is a real line? It's just dirt. Do you think all immigrants are hurting people? They're not committing any crimes other than crossing the dirt.

    Why not simply stop the funding for illegal immigrants? It would be much more effective. Make sure that proper documentation is required for welfare. Why do you want a wall? It's a waste of money. Besides 60% of illegal immigrants get here with visas.
     
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    So by your own argument your property line must also be imaginary and if I decide to "immigrant" on to it and set up shop, there's not a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) thing you could do about it. Not that you would though because that would just make you a hypocrite then, right? So where do you live? Want to start moving in asap. Gona be awesome.
     
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    How is it not victimless?
     
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    I never said I liked illegal immigrants. I said it was victimless. If you come onto my property it might not be victimless.
     
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    Literally everything out of your mouth is made up.

    Yes it is. Go look at a map. You'll see plenty of them. Every nation on earth has one.

    Yes. Yes they are. Maybe not intentionally but they hurt every American and also every immigrant who wants to come here legally. And then you say they sent committing any crimes, and then admit they are committing a crime? Wtf? And it's not like anyone thinks they are all hardened criminals and cartel thugs. No one thinks that. But it is still a crime wether you like it or not.

    Stop the funding for illegal immigrants? What the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you talking about? Why are you throwing welfare in there?

    Because I want a secure border. That's why. And what about the other 40%?

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    So then you're a hypocrite and have lost all credibility (like you ever had any lol) on the subject and may no longer discuss it whatsoever.
     
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    See? That's exactly my point. We imagine the border, and it exists. In 100 years that might not be the border.
     
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    How is it?

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    In a few days it might not be your property anymore
     
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    You know what victimless means right? How are they hurting Americans by crossing an imaginary line?
     
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    Holy (*)(*)(*)(*) ofcourse you, of all people here on the left, would need this explained.

    Someone help me out here...I am losing patience for such ignorance.
     
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    Very true. The only thing defending me is the law.
     
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    Respond to the 6 different points I made in that comment or don't respond. Especially with something as pointless and dumb as that.
     
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    Lmao nobody has an answer.
     
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    Oh so now all of a sudden the law is a good thing now that it pertains directly to you? You know what else is against the law? ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTION! You have just destroyed your own argument. Congrats.
     
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    Serious cognitive dissonance here. Just admit that a stranger crossing the imagery line doesn't actually hurt you.

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    My argument is not that it is legal. I said victimless.
     
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    Well for starters...

    Voting in our elections they are not supposed to.

    Taking jobs they arent supposed to that could go to Americans.

    Taking housing that could go too Americans.

    Taking tax payer money from Americans that they should not receive.

    Bringing drugs and crime over.

    I mean the list literally just goes on and on.

    How in the hell could you possibly not know this? Liberal ideology blinds people pretty badly. I think you should expose yourself to the world more often, get some perspective, education, etc. Because how you could need to ask such a question with such an obvious answer is beyond all reason.
     
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    Answer the points I made. Or don't respond. It only makes you look more pathetic in front of everyone ekse when you deflect like this.

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    He knows his whole post is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). He knows everything you just said. He just likes to make this stupid anti trump threads.
     
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    You're making an assumption. Crossing the imaginary line doesn't mean that they are going to do any of that. Those are other things than immigration.
     
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    Your other points were just semantics. I'm not going to have a disagreement on the definition of borders. It's dirt, and when they draw the maps, there is a line. True, that line is protected by legal papers, but it doesn't change the fact that they only exist in our minds.
     
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    That's so good to know. We really need to put you in touch with Mr. Jim Steinle, because he needs to be made aware that illegal immigration is a victimless crime. So good of you to educate people and let them know that they're misinformed...

    I'm convinced there's no reasoning with some people. It's sad, but it's true. Perhaps we need to look at a list of the victims of this victimless crime?
     
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    This guy just trolls. All his arguments/OPs are inane. I'm done with him. IGNORE!
     
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    So the USA invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan wasn't really an invasion at all. The USA could roll its military into Canada or Cuba tomorrow and it would be no foul and perfectly acceptable. The only wrong would be any Canadian or Cuban who opposed this. The USA should be able to go into any country in the world with no legitimate basis to oppose it because there is not such thing as a border.

    OMG would the neocons LOVE you!
     

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