Body of missing Palestinian girl Hind Rajab found in destroyed car

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    Just one example of the many horrible atrocities in this conflict. It needs to stop now. I hate that US money and weapons are fueling this slaughter.
     
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    This guy really sums up what has been happening in Palestine really well.

     
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    The Killing of 6-year-old Hind Rajab | Digital Series | Al Jazeera

    I will summarize but the video is good and relatively short.

    After the Israelis murder Hind's family, Hind picks up the phone which was connected to the Red Crescent. Finally, the Red Crescent gets permission from Israel to send an ambulance to rescue her.

    So, Israel has given permission for the ambulance to rescue Hind and they know the ambulance is coming.

    The ambulance arrives and the Israelis murder those inside the fully marked Red Crescent ambulance. Five minutes later, they murder Hind as well.

    The cult of Israelism is evil.
     
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    Except there’s no proof the Israelis did it. What there is evidence for is a gun battle that rages off and on for hours, and given that Hind and, later, the medics, were amongst the Israelis, it actually is far more plausible it was Hamas that shot them all to hell rather than the israelis.
     
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    Sad. The alternate reality of Israelism.
    There is actually no evidence for this. In fact, the hours of silence except for Hind talking proves the opposite.
    You didn’t actually watch the video did you . . . Or maybe this is an alternate reality again?
    No it isn’t. Not even remotely. Hamas is not fighting set-piece battles as you describe. Your description is by someone who has no idea what is going on or what goes on in a guerrilla war.

    I don’t know which Hasbara sadist you’re getting your info from but that is not how Hamas or any guerrilla fights battles unless they want to lose.

    “A gun battle that rages off and on for hours” . . . Sad.
     
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    You can hear shooting in the background of the video. Zero reason to shoot the car up 3 times. Zero reason to target medics.

    At the end of the day, your allegation is Israel murdered them in cold blood. Based on nothing other than “there were Israelis in the area therefore they must’ve done it”—what an absurd claim.

    prove your conspiracy theory BS.
     
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    Funny how Hamas's claims get blasted out constantly while the atrocities committed by Hamas seem to be ignored completely. This thread is an example of how they and their Iranian and Russian masters/allies fight a war today -- through information, however false, as well as bullets and bombs. Hamas attacked innocent people in Israel, not vice versa, and has been blasting out fake news about Israel's war to eradicate Hamas ever since.
     
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    The phone call was audio only. You never looked up the actual audio for the phone call did you? It was a 3-hour phone call by the way.
    They were Palestinians. The Israelis want to kill or remove the Palestinians from Gaza.
    They were Palestinians. The Israelis want to kill or remove the Palestinians from Gaza.

    Do you seriously not know this?


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    Israel doesn't consider it murder because, as Israel has repeatedly stated, the Palestinians of Gaza are animals - not human.

    I've provided plenty of evidence for any reasonable person.
     
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    so you don’t have any proof. Just baseless accusations. Why would a reasonable person believe baseless allegations?

    Try again. Try harder. “I believe Israelis took 3 hours murdering 1 car and 1 ambulance of people because photos showed they existed in the area and any other scenario involving Hamas righteous freedom fighters is just too tough for me to handle so I must be right.”

    wow. Sooooo convincing!
     
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    1. Actus Reus - Israeli tanks were at the crime scene. Audio evidence of the shooting itself, recorded eye-witness testimony of the Israeli's killing the people as well as third party satellite evidence of the Israeli soldiers being at the crime scene itself and pointing their weapons at the victims.
    2. Mens rea - Innumerable videos of Israeli soldiers indicating they want to or have no problem with killing Palestinian civilians.
    3. Causation - Examination of the bodies and vehicles indicate the tank fire did directly cause the deaths of those involved.

    All the proof that is needed.
    Yes, your accusations that I have not provided proof are baseless.
    I can't say I'd know why anyone would believe your baseless accusations against me. However, after interacting with many people, I now understand that there are a ton of racist bigots who hate Palestinians and Muslims so much they will believe anything which will support the genocide of those in Gaza. Another possibility is that the religious fervor of Zionism propels them to believe anything no matter how fanciful or silly.
    1. Actus Reus - No evidence Hamas was anywhere at the scene. No Hamas weapons known, seen, photographed or heard. Eyewitness testimony never mentions Hamas.
    2. Mens rea - Hamas has no motive. Hamas does not want to kill its own people.
    3. Causation - No weapons Hamas uses caused the death of the civilians.

    You have completely failed on all three points.
    Very true! The evidence against Israel is overwhelming.
     
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    What a bummer! You have no idea what the difference is between circumstantial BS and proof! So you tell me, is it ignorance, or bigotry? I can educate you in either.

    Any idea why it take 3 hours to kill the occupants of 1 car? Were the Israelis going for the Guinness record on worlds longest execution? How exactly are you able to tell whose guns are firing from audio tape? ROFL!
     
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    I remember seeing that Wag the Dog movie awhile back on how they made up a whole war and a casualty in it.
     
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    Hamas should have considered this before starting the conflict. The other Palestinians should have considered this before supporting Hamas.

    The Palestinians have had plenty of time to move. There is plenty of room for them elsewhere in the Arab world. I do not want any of them moving to the United States.
     
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