Boy Scouts and the money...

So I was in church the other day. The LDS church to be exact. During priesthood we talk about the issues of the area that pertain to our ward and sometimes the stake. The usuals come up, home teaching, what the kids are doing... And the the topic of the "Friends for Scouting" program comes up.

An odd feeling fills the room. You see, apparently we aren't meeting our goals for the fund, we're having troubles of sorts. We've had no such troubles in the past to my understanding. Also, the rumor mill is telling us that the scouts are preferring cash donations as well, most prefer to write a check. Basically, members are skeptical of shelling out cash for an organization that might not meet their moral expectations in the future - I am in this group.

My hypothesis is this: they want cash because it cannot have a payment stoppage on it. I've also heard some members are writing post dated checks to prevent early deposits as well.

Basically, it would seem that the members are holding out on the national council decision with the Boy Scouts on the homosexual leadership debate. While we are encouraged to donate to the scouts, because officially the LDS church is still behind them full force - currently. This could change quite rapidly I suspect. But then again the LDS prophet among other influential people are on the board so things could be interesting to say the least.

So my question is this, how will the scouts get capital they need to operate if they alienate the prime providers who graciously donate their time and their money to the program? Because right now, it would seem that they are hurting at least in this area. Will the scouting program survive without its faith based patrons? Or will there be a split in the organization in the future?

 

Southeast Christian drops its scout sponsorship...

Kentucky church is dropping its scouting program
May 27, 2013 > Mega-church's action linked in part to Scouting's decision to allow openly gay youths in troops.

 

As a church going christian, you should ask yourself "what would jesus think about gays?".

 

Oh I don't know … It may not be so bad.

I mean the whole thing about openly allowing gays in the Boy Scouts is all about equality, and what Jesus would do.
It really doesn't matter if churches start dropping their sponsorship for Scout Troops now that we know how important the Scouts are to the community.

The Boy Scouts can now be Federally Funded since they don't promote God and don't discriminate against gays anymore … Make it the Real Boy Scouts of America.

But to your question about “Will the Scouting program survive” … Gives more ideas for possible funding.
What it used to be is already dead … So let the Homosexual community worry about supporting the Scouts now … Responsibility and accountability are associated with their actions.
The Scouts abandoned the church … So the church shouldn't feel obligated to support a program that contradicts their teachings.

God will take care of them … One way or another.

 

This addresses nothing. I already know what he thinks about them - they just don't seem to approve of it. That is their problem.

 

My guess is that the corporate money that was being held back will make up for the church money being withheld and everything will be fine. Not that I care.

 

The Boy Scouts still don't allow atheists in. That is the real holdup on federal money, not the gay thing.

 

So they will allow homosexuals as long as they are religious?

What about non-christian religions?

 

If you can get gays in, there will be no problem getting religion out ... everything is solved.

 

Non-Christian religions are welcomed with open arms.

 

Then is it true that they don't allow atheists?

 

Oh you do? And what did the man who said "turn the other cheak", "do unto other what you would have them do unto you" and "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone", think about gays?

Lets be clear, jesus, not John, not anyone else, what does jesus think? Because I know what he said, and it contradicts the way "christians" view and treat homosexuals.

 

That was pretty weak dude.

One out of context bible scripture after the other.

There is nothing more useless than a Progressive-Leftist.

 

Let him answer. He says he knows what jesus thinks about the gays, which is conjecture. On the other hand I've quoted jesus, from the bible, which is not conjecture.

Facts are facts. Modern day christians are the diametric opposite of what jesus was saying, his love and peace attitude does not exist with them, tjhey are angry violent types, more in line with the Old Testement than the New.

 

Jesus had no issues with the content of the Old Testament.

This is a perfect example why horse dung actually gets filthier when a Progressive-Leftists face gets smeared in it (try one day fascinating science experiment).

See these cockroaches? When a Christian is being nice and tolerant they say its the exception to the rule of violent Christianity on par with Islam. Then when they dont like what a Christian is saying they tell them to be loving and peaceful like they are supposed to be, like Jesus was.

(*)(*)(*)(*) that. Put your bibles down and treat Progressive-Leftists how YOU want to treat them. How you KNOW they deserve. Rest assured knowing no matter how low you go they have gone lower.

It simply is not possible for a decent human being to match their level of evil.

 

The "christian" Right, laid bare for all to see. Thankyou, you've done us all a favour today.

"Do unto others, what you would have them do undo you". *



















* Unless you fancy ignoring the word of god today.

 

He'd think they're absolutely wrong and tell them so, but still live and preach among them.

The Scouts won't survive as it has been if local religious affiliated organizations drop out. It will change and continue to exist, but not as it has been.

Also, it's federally ineligible? That's just odd, since Eagle Scouts start 18months ahead in rank over other soldiers.

 

You're sure?

 

I speak for myself, and the Christian Right speaks for them.

We are separate entities, although my arms remain open to them, under a few conditions:

1. Get the spines surgically replaced

2. Get the mouth OFF of the Progresive-Leftists penis. It changes nothing. They are happy you are quick to get on your knees to please them, but they still resent you and everyone you hold dear. So stop it.

3. A Progressive-Leftist does not transform from vile scum to angels worthy of support and protection when the ethnicities change. No matter what color their skin is or, no matter their religion, if they are a Progressive-Leftist they are evil personified and should be regarded as such.

So....Get your, geez American Right, how can you fit so many,,,,,,in your,,,,anyways, get that kosher penis out of your mouth! Seriously. I have never seen a group of people adamantly support a people who resent them so much, like the Christian Right does to Zionist Jews.

4. Upgrade your standards of political tactics to that of Progressive-Leftists. That means no more apologizing for what you say and believe. DEMAND respect. Progressive-Leftists are like children in the sense that if you let them walk all over you, slander your mother call your daughter a ho, lie about you, steal from you,etc...they will do it, over and over again, until you put your foot down.

So no, I do not speak for the Christian Right, a weak, pathetic group of insane cowards.

 

Everything I've read in scripture and all analysis I've read based on scripture (I've read it many times) suggests so, as Jesus did with ALL other sinners. Do you have any reason to think otherwise, or are you just asking?

 

I think people are using religion to justify their xenophobia.

 

I think your thoughts are bigoted and ridiculous.

So you have no reason for thinking otherwise, you just don't like religion when it points to views differently than your own?

 

I suspect this will be fruitless with you, but it may benefit others.

D&C 1:38-

So really, you're splitting hairs when you're trying to grab just what the Savior said while dismissing the prophets by and large.

Also-

Something you'll probably not read in its entirety but addresses the topic fully here.

An something you'll likely not watch, but also addresses the topic-

[video=youtube;MZYLaSYXy0U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZYLaSYXy0U[/video]

You see, I don't need to come up with an original well thought out response - others already have. And I don't have to accept homosexual behavior. I condemn the behavior, I always will. I see no point or benefit in condemning the man.

 

Xenophobia? Fear of the strange and foreign?

Hardly. It isn't unknown, neither are they afraid of it...well okay some are, but they do know what it is about, an they certainly dislike it. And can be vocal about it if they choose to be so.

But you do have one part of it right, homosexuality is quite strange. Aberrant really.

 

I'm asking what did JESUS himself say in the matter, not people who spoke on his behalf.

What did JESUS himself say ?