Boy Scouts of America Opt to Destroy Themselves

I often wonder why there is such unfounded prejudice against gays. The obvious fear is pedophilia but the characterists of the pedophile don't relate to homosexuality and, in fact, most acts of pedophilia are committed by "heterosexual" men.

http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm

The belief that gay men don't care about children and that they don't hold the same moral values as others in society is completely false. The fears about them are unquestionably based upon homophobic hysteria as opposed to any facts. Gay scout leaders could and probably do hold every single one of the values promoted by the BSA which is why they would want to be a Scout Leader. The only thing they lack is the intolerance that apparently many heterosexual Scout Leaders seem to have.

 

The actual content of your posts is terrible Never Left - arrogant, ostentatious rhetoric and ultimately just various ways of saying "but, I'm right and you're wrong and that's that!" Waste of time even reading your posts - they're all very predictable.

 

except it doesn't. a pedophile is someone attracted to pre pubescent children.

see? never right.

 

Nah what? Nah as in you don't believe that a middle-aged virgin man who whacks all day to girl-on-girl porn isn't actually "heterosexual", or nah as in you don't think that at all?

The full application of your own view of what constitutes sexual orientation means that the aforementioned example would indeed be part of that way of thinking. And it shows how utterly nonsensical it is.

be·ing
/ˈbēiNG/
Noun
Existence: "the railroad brought many towns into being".
Living; being alive.

How being got confused with "acting" or "doing" I have no idea. You're right though - sexual orientation isn't a race, gender or species. No one claimed it was. It is a state of being though - a fact recognized by the BSA when it was their policy to exclude kids, not for anything they've actually physically done, but the mere fact of who they are. They kicked boys out for their biological and innate same-sex attraction, not for homosexual conduct.

All silly and irrelevant questions. Does a black person bleed differently, walk with both feet or drink with their mouth?

I'm not saying race and sexual orientation are exactly the same, but you can see how utterly trivial those questions are when you replace "gay" with "black". Not sure of your point.

Again, this logic would imply the 50-year old virgin in my example isn't in fact heterosexual, which contradicts the very definition:

het·er·o·sex·u·al
/ˌhetərōˈsekSHo͞oəl/
Adjective
(of a person) Sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex.
Noun
A heterosexual person.
Synonyms
hetero

Your definition of sexual orientation makes no sense, and defies every dictionary there is.

Nope, because they excluded kids for same-sex attraction, not sexual conduct. It wasn't based on where people put their willies or any behavior, as most kids that age aren't sexually active. They didn't ask the kids with same-sex attraction whether or not they had actually engaged in gay sex, the fact they admitted or were found out to have told people they have same-sex attraction was the deciding factor. Sex was irrelevant.

Clearly, the BSA weren't using your peculiar definition of the word "gay", they were using the one almost every single person in society uses.

 

Ah, the "ye ol' its not really pedophilia hair splitting schuck and jive". Fail.

 

*sigh*

another one who thinks you have to have sex in order to be hetero or homosexual.

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how is it wrong, and on what authority do you claim it to be wrong?

 

When does it stop being pedophilia, in your eyes? 17, 18, 19?

30 states allow 16 year olds to have sex with anyone of any age, are they all pedophilic states? Or is it only "pedophilia" when it's two men?

You know about Elvis Presley right?

 

Nobody said AIDS is a gay disease but you. Thx to so-called 'straight' men having sex with other men, AIDS has spread to females too.

What advice would you give a young gay man... there's nothing to worry about?

 

Do you think you can tell by looking that a man is HIV+?

 

you realize that there are many a conservative republican who is homosexual right?

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but your perceived morals are subjective

 

The same advice I'd give a young straight man, a young straight woman, a middle aged straight man, a middle aged gay man, a middle aged straight female, a middle aged gay female, a elderly straight male, an elderly straight female, an elderly gay man, and an elderly gay female.

If you're going to have sex with someone that is not your steady partner, use protection.

 

The point is that anal sex by itself isn't an inherently deadly or dangerous act - a monogamous couple can have anal sex an infinite number of times and will never "make" HIV (despite some people I've met actually thinking that), or any other STD for that matter. What's more, using condoms with non-committed sexual partners mitigates the risk of catching HIV to less than that of unprotected heterosexual sex.

Silhouette doesn't believe in teaching safe sex though, she believes the schools should simply tell kids that sodomy is inherently deadly and not even tell them how to do it safely. In other words, she's advocating a policy of ignorance towards life-saving and health preserving methods in a world where simply telling a kid not to do something seldom works...

 

Bla ditty bla ditty bla...Elvis at the shopping mall...he married a young wife...so he is a pedophile...30 states allow it...so that means that Harvey Milk was not a homosexual pedophilic predator pervert...bla ditty bla ditty bla...

 

Hopefully adults dont need advice. Wonder if scout leaders will start handing out condoms? How young is too young to encourage sexual behavior? Prob depends on whether it's your kid or not.

 

Republicans, democrat, cartoon character, what ever. Still perverts no matter what. Morals are absolute. If they were not they would be merely ideas, which is what the radical gay agenda is.

 

Why does the homosexual bit matter? I think it reveals your prejudice that you feel the need to list the quality of homosexuality alongside the words "pedophile", "predator" and "pervert".

Point is you anti-gay right wingers always find the time to trash Harvey Milk in your attempts to tie LGBT right to child molestation on account of your moral beliefs, yet NEVER make threads or arguments about how legal "pedophilia" as you call it exists in 30 US states. Rather than focusing on one person who may or may not have broken the law over 40 years ago, why not talk about the fact tens of thousands of 16 year old heterosexual girls are likely being nailed by older guys every day in America, and perfectly legally...??

You don't because you feign moral outrage over Milk, simply because it fits your homophobic agenda.

 

So your assumption is that gay boy scouts and/or gay boy scout leaders would encourage kids to have sex simply because they are gay? Is this what you truly believe or is this more imaginary foolishness about gay people that you're perpetuating on purpose?

 

I'm sorry you didn't know what pedophile means. Now you do.

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why do you continue to make things up?

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do you think this somehow has anything to do with my post?

 

You can't prove that morals are absolute. From one religion to the next many claim this concept of "moral absolutionism", yet their morals differ! What proof do you have that your morals are absolute?

If your belief system is Christianity, then it is based on the writings of people thousands of years ago. You trust that their moral code is the absolute moral code.... simply because it claims to be. It's circular reasoning.

 

Hahahaha morals ARE ideas!

You sir, are plainly in denial about that.

But, just so that I can say I tried, please explain what makes morality absolute. It can't just be absolute because you say it is, there has to be a real reason, something that elevates that morality above everything else and which is not based simply on people thinking it's a good "idea".

 

The point is, moral absolutionism may or may not exist, but you can't prove to me that your particular set of morals is THE set of morals. So it's pointless us even having this discussion.

 

of course morals are not absolute. they are subjective. they are a human invention.

 

I know, the truth sucks. I am not a right winger. I am an actual liberal, not a progressive leftist loser who have hi-jacked liberalism to lend legitimacy to their America hating and destroying agenda. I am not responsable for the moral corruption of individual states. This thread is about the suicide of the boy scouts. Havey Milk is a side show now, as he was then, and as homosexuality is now with people thinking that they actually have a viable and sociatal beneftit to their incidious existence.

 

Impossible to separate gay from sex... if not for sexual preferences, there'd be no such thing as gay.

Makes one wonder if there's really such a thing as gay kids. Could be just a phase.. like playing soccer.

 

Ah ha, Christiphobia. I never once mentioned religion, but progressive leftist loser bias took you there!