Breaking: Florida Radio and Newsmax Host Who Opposed Covid Vaccine Dies Of Covid Complications

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  1. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don’t buy the conspiracy theory.

    Our economy, and our elites, are supported by consumerism. And the elderly spend a lot of saved money in retirement. Even those with little or no savings take their SS checks and immediately turn them right back into the economy.

    And besides, the vaccines are making it harder for Covid to kill off the elderly.

    No, I don’t buy it. But the conspiracy believer almost always rejects the obvious.

    Yes, we did land men on the moon.
    Osama bin Laden did commit the 9/11 attacks.
    No, the towers did not fall because of controlled demolitions.
    And no, Covid is not something designed by the elites to kill off the elderly.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. Unvaccinated people should be denied hospital treatment if they catch Covid.
     
  3. Shinebox

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    that's a bit too far ... they should be treated and then held for 72 hours under the Baker Act ...
     
  4. ChiCowboy

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    Ah yes, the good old tax revolt whine. Be thankful you weren't this guy.

    Tax Day in Ancient Egypt | JSTOR Daily

    A newly-analyzed papyrus fragment from Ancient Egypt revealed a truly whopping tax bill. The receipt, for a land transfer tax, was paid in more than 100 kilograms worth of bronze coins, plus a fee for the middleman charged with actually delivering the taxes to the treasury plus an additional penalty for using bronze. And you thought that the IRS was particular.

    Ancient Egypt was very organized when [it] came to tax collection. As a 2002 article by Mahmoud Ezzamel points out, taxes were paid in grain and were literally redistributed. Grain was needed for government administration, the construction and functioning of temples, for offerings on festival days, and for a government-mandated grain surplus that was set aside for draught years.

    Nothing has changed in 5000 years. Time to modernize the bitching.


    Filling out the 1040 might be a chore but it sure beats baking 10,000 loaves of bread.

    Lol.
     
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  5. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    If I had my way, I'd put the unvaccinated at the end of the line when hospital beds become scarce. Who am I kidding. If it weren't for the unvaccinated, we'd have an abundance of available beds.

    Unfortunately, this is a cost of living in a free society. How we deal with mis/disinformation going forward is of utmost concern, but we treat everybody, regardless of how they got sick.
     
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    None. The vaccines are now obsolete now that we have a delta strain that is resistant to them. People will be infected whether they have vaccinations or not. They will spread the virus whether they are vaccinated or not. There isn't a thing we can do about it. New vaccines will be met by new strains. It happens every year with the flu. That is what corona viruses do. Surprise, surprise.

    I remember saying in January 2020 that this would behave just like any influenza except that it has been weaponized to be more contagious. The death rate is the same as influenza but the number of infections are far far greater because of that communicability. The government is lying to you. If you think you or anybody can affect the progress of the virus you are in for a painful lesson. Sorry but your post is about a virus that existed months ago. It has been replaced. Sorry. And the current one will be replaced in the near future. Sorry.
     
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    If I absolutely have no other choice? Sure. And?

    If I had a high risk of cancer I wouldn’t immediately choose to jump to an experimental cancer drug with no know long term safety data. Now if I was in stage 4 metastasized cancer, I had tried a bunch of other stuff, nothing was working and I was dying, sure I’d try it. What do I have to lose?

    That’s quite a bit different than taking an experimental drug with no long term safety data just to be precautionary. You have NO idea if the mRNA vaccine will cause increased rates of cancer, heart disease, immune system issues, infertility or any of the other THOUSANDS of issues that might occur in 5, 10 or 20 years.

    That’s a risk I’d be willing to take if I was dying. Not if I’m perfectly healthy.
     
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    Lol @ if not when. First of all I’ve already had covid and didn’t even realize I had it. So don’t worry about me I’ll be fine.

    As for my wild conspiracy, I’m still waiting for you to tell everyone how you know I’m wrong.
     
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    Mind telling me what the risk profile for the mRNA vaccine for heart disease, cancer, fertility and immune deficiency is in 5, 10, 20 years?
     
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  10. WalterSobchak

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    You have no clue if the mRNA vaccine will cause any of the things you are scared of. I do know what Covid does though.

    So you are willing to be a burden on our health system and take non approved drugs in order to save your life because you refused a simple little shot in your arm? What sense does it make to refuse a vaccine that is 99% effective at preventing death & hospitalization from Covid but are 100% ok with receiving non fda approved medicines in an attempt to save your life because of your decision to not protect yourself?
     
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    You ask what sense does it make.

    Let’s assume hypothetically that metastasized cancer rates increase 10x the normal population rate 10-15 years after taking an mRNA vaccine.

    If you knew that before taking the vaccine, would you take the covid mRNA vaccine?
     
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    Covid didn't kill him. Darwin did.
     
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    Let's assume you grow a tail and your arms fall off if you get the next variant of Covid and are not vaccinated. Still avoiding the vaccine?
     
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    If there’s another variant I will evaluate the risks and make a decision at that time.
     
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    How does this radio host dying impact you? You should be happy
     
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    We already know what Covid does to people. You are asking a hypothetical question about something that you have no evidence of happening to people. Yet you still prefer to get non fda approved drugs from the Hospital in order to save your life from a virus that put you in the ICU because you chose not to receive a vaccine that has been proven to be 99% effective in keeping you out of the ICU.

    It's insanity IMO.
     
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    LOL at your agenda to blame right wingers. People can die of anything. Get over it.
     
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    I understand your point, but you are being a bit unfair. Unless a person is in an accident that is the fault of someone else, almost all health problems doctors ie. ER, PCPs, specialists, hospital, private duty, etc.) are the result of somebody making poor decisions in their life.

    In this sense, it's unfair to label JUST the anti-vaxxers (of COVID vaccines) as being particularly negligent. Maybe they were. Maybe they ran through the house with scissors. Maybe they drank disinfectant. Maybe they are just extra reckless. None of those things are valid reasons to deny them adequate medical care.
     
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    I'm certainly not gleeful about anyone's death. But when you do things the increase your chances of death (ie smoking, obesity), you have yourself to blame. The same goes when you choose not to do things that could increase your chance of death (ie. getting vaccinated), you have yourself to blame.

    Everyone is free to make choices for themselves, but they need to understand they are making choices for others by doing so. I know I couldn't live with deaths on my conscience.
     
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    Darwin applauds...
     
  21. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don’t know and you don’t know. What I do know is that I got Covid, and I had a fever for about 12 hours and some sinus congestion that was dissipating by the third day. By the 5th day I couldn’t even tell I had been sick. I am fully vaccinated, and I am satisfied with my choice.
     
  22. ShadowX

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    How can you be fully satisfied if you don’t know the long term consequences?

    I mean you’re satisfied to this point... sure. But that’s why they’re called LONG TERM consequences.
     
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    Gee....and yet again nary A WORD about the faceless, nameless, disposable, DELIBERATELY LEFT ANONYMOUS THOUSANDS WHO'VE DIED AS A RESULT OF TAKING THE "VACCINE"......:censored:
     
  24. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am 66 years old, I got Covid, I was getting well in 2 days, I wasn’t hospitalized, and I took a small amount of over the counter meds a few times (Tylenol and a decongestant). Nothing else. The only reason I went to the doctor was to get tested. Other than that, I didn’t even need a doctor.

    So yes! I am satisfied with my decision earlier this year to get vaccinated, and if in the future a booster is recommended, I’ll get it.

    Risk vs reward, and I think I made the best choice.
     
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    Can you list some of these “thousands “ ? If they did exist, it should be easy. Thousands.

    Or are you just making it up?
     

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