Brennan: I Didn’t Mean That Trump Committed Treason

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Noted that you cannot demonstrate one single economic indicator that Trump has actually changed significantly. And yes Trump has reversed a few of Obama's policies but not really any that changed the economy yet although ne can certainly say that his reversals haven't done anything to help the economy and his trade wars may yet prove disasterous.

    And the good of Obama's policies is of course the recovery from the Bush recession. Housing prices way up under Obama, stock market way up under Obama. Employment way up under Obama. Those are facts that even the Obama haters cannot dispute.
     
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    What was I wrong about? So far you haven't been able to find one thing I said that wasn't the truth.

    And here is your quote about the uranium reserve being turned over to Russia:

    " after she turned over 20% of our strategic uranium reserve to them in exchange for big donations to the Clinton Foundation."

    Now be honest. None of the strategic uranium reserve was turned over to Russia. No uranium went to Russia nor can Russia decide the disposition of any uranium produced in America.
     
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    It's the sentence I underlined exactly so you wouldn't miss it. And yet you did. :no:
    I wish I could take your hand and read it to you, real slow like so you finally understand.
     
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    Sorry try reading my post above. Your two statements only indicate that you have back tracked after being called on your original falsehood that 20% of America's strategic uranium reserve was turned over to Russia.

    Now maybe your English language is different from most Americans but " turned over" in English means "put under the control of" and that clearly didn't happen.
     
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    It is progressing. We put on tarriffs. Russia puts on tariffs. China puts on tariffs and negotiations aren't going anywhere.
     
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    Is that your argument? Disputing the meaning of "turned over" to the Russians? Quite clearly 20% of our strategic uranium reserve was
    sold to the Russians. You can define what it means to buy something any way you like.

    I really can't say what I want to say to you and you really have nothing worth wasting my time over so let's just wrap this up.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. the country has recovered from depression NOT because of Obama, BUT in-spite of Obama.
     
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    hmmm, that's how I feel about the current health of the economy and trump.
     
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    Well that is possible but more likely is the fact that the Obama recovery happened despite the Republican Congress.
     
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    Agreed. And please don't make up what I actually say in the future because I will call you out on it. And this will help you understand just what a " strategic uranium reserve" actually is and the status of such currently in the United States. Since it hasn't existed since 1998 it is hard to figure out how 20% was turned over to the Russians. Hillary's time machine perhaps?


    Strategic uranium reserves

    Strategic uranium reserves refer to uranium inventories held by the government of a particular country, as well as private industry, for the purpose of providing economic and national security during an energy crisis.


    North AmericaEdit

    In the early 1990s, the United States created a temporary strategic uranium reserve. The authorization for this reserve expired in 1998:

    There is hereby established the National Strategic Uranium Reserve under the direction and control of the Secretary. The Reserve shall consist of natural uranium and uranium equivalents contained in stockpiles or inventories currently held by the United States for defense purposes. Effective on October 24, 1992, and for 6 years thereafter, use of the Reserve shall be restricted to military purposes and government research. Use of the Department of Energy’s stockpile of enrichment tails existing on October 24, 1992, shall be restricted to military purposes for 6 years thereafter.[1]
     
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    20% of America's strategic uranium reserve was sold to Russia and as per the information already cited, which you accepted without reserve, some of it has been exported to Canada and to some point in Europe
    (exactly where is unknown but Russia happens to be located in Europe and it's hard to see why Putin and Rosatom would move their own product somewhere if not for their own good) despite terms of the sale.
     
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    In which post did I agree that 20% of our strategic reserve has been sold to Russia?

    This is from FOX news which All good fruit loop conspiracy theorists accept as gospel.

    What was the Uranium One deal?
    In 2013, Rosatom, backed by the Russian state, acquired a Canadian uranium mining company, now called Uranium One, which has assets in the U.S. Uranium is a key material for making nuclear weapons.

    Through the deal, Russia is able to own about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity. However, Colin Chilcoat, an energy affairs specialist who has written extensively about Russia's energy deals, said that the company only extracts about 11 percent of uranium in the U.S.

    The deal also “doesn’t allow for that uranium to be exported at all,” Chilcoat told Fox News. “It’s not like it’s leaving the U.S. or somehow finding its way to more insidious players.”

    The agreement was approved by nine government agencies with the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), an inter-agency group that reviews how certain foreign investments can impact national security. The State Department under Clinton was one of those agencies, though Clinton told WMUR-TV in 2015 that she was not “personally involved” in the agreement.
     
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    Guess you didn't actually even bother to read past the headline of the article. This is what the article actually says. And now you have changed from I said to I didn't disagree with with are two separate issues. And the whole discussion including the above post and below have been my disagreeing with you claim that 20% of the strategic uranium reserve was sold to Russia.

    " So, to further answer the lead question: Russia, via Rosatom and U1H, owns roughly 20 percent of US uranium production capacity. The share of US reserves is much less clear as economic constraints significantly muddy the picture. Looking at actual production, U1H, via Willow Creek, produced an estimated 210 tons of uranium, or 11 percent of the 1887.5 tons extracted in the US in 2014."

    Do you now understand what the deal actually entailed. Selling 20% of the production capacity not any actual uranium. And none of the companies production can go to Russia without government agency approval.

    Do you understsnd yet? Oh, and here is another quote from your article:

    "Still, it’s somewhat disingenuous to say this uranium is now Russia’s, to do with what it pleases, or to suggest that any amount of the uranium will end up in Iran. The current licenses – held by the US-based subsidiaries and approved by the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission – do not allow exports from any U1H US facility."
     
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    Sandbox mentality leads to circular illogic. Sad reality. Brennan did not walk back anything.........indictments re RU/Trump conspiracy are coming, just wait for it!

    Cheers.
     
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    Well... the number of part-time, low paying jobs created during 8 years of Obama is certainly compares favorably with the number of full time, high paying jobs, created during a year and a half of Trump :)
     
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    OK... waiting... waiting...

     
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    You lost me.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sure. Feel free to post any evidence. Think I have asked you that before without any resulting action on your part.
     
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    Nearly 95% of all new jobs during Obama era were part-time, or contract
    http://www.investing.com/news/econo...ing-obama-era-part-time,-contract-work-449057

    The Trump jobs era really is different
    http://qz.com/1347200/the-jobs-created-under-trump-are-different-than-under-obama/

    The top 10 industries growing faster under Trump than under Obama
    http://www.theatlas.com/charts/BkPpunJHX
     
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    Brennan stokes Violence:

    “Fundamentally, though, what he’s doing to this country, he’s dividing us…He’s dividing Americans,” Brennan said of the president during an appearance on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher.”

    “So I’m really concerned that as he continues to play to his base, he’s further dividing us, and I’m really concerned about whether this could spill over into the streets,” he said.
     
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    Context and attention skills are require for critical thinking.........refer to "in this indictment".........still reaching I see.

    Cheers.
     
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    Never too late... learn some.
     
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    Weak debate is to be expected when the facts and truth are not your baseline.
     
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    Why didn't Brennan go to jail for illegally breaking into Senate computers? I forget....
     

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