Bulldogs Views on the economy

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  1. Bolduca

    Bolduca New Member

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    The Economy: Pay your workers a living wage they like to eat as well you know "No More Wage Slavery".

    Stop nickel and dimeing people there is such thing as to much profit if you are making 3000% profit on something you are robbing people as is, why do you need to charge them hidden fees along side that.

    The income of every American should be capped at 10 million USD a year if you can't live on that go some place else we don't want your kind or your money. I live barely, on 12k a year, and guess what it sucks if i had 10 million a year i would keep 1 million and give away the rest, my family and I could live for a long time and very well on that. Wake up call for you aristocratic jerks there are more of us than there are of you and guess what you are not better than us.

    Tax People who are making money not those of us who are living paycheck to paycheck trying to keep from living on a street corner. It is the duty and resopncibility of the strong to protect the weak and the rich to help the poor. If you do not believe this then get some morals or go kill your self and make the world better for the rest of us. You made your money from our hard work now thank us and give something back. Still not convinced here is more.

    "Aristocracy (Greek ἀριστοκρατία aristokratía, from ἄριστος aristos "excellent," and κράτος kratos "power"), is a form of government in which a few elite citizens rule.[1] The term derives from the Greek aristokratia, meaning "rule of the best".[2] In origin in Ancient Greece, it was conceived of as rule by the best qualified citizens, and contrasted with monarchy. In later times, aristocracy was seen as rule by a privileged few (the aristocratic class)."

    Now That I defined the problem lets explain it.

    1. A few elite citizens rule. What will these few elite citizens do with power they will abuse it for personal gain.
    2. This idea by Definition means that those people who get into powerful positions must be predatory in nature and there for unfit to rule.
    3. It is the duty and resopncibility of the strong to protect the weak and the rich to help the poor. You make your money of some one else's hard work so for gods sake pay them a living wage.
    4. People of wealth and power believe they are the Aristocracy and there for can rule. Surprise you are wrong. The Elite that run the country are, by their very exclusivism completely out of touch with those they rule and there for cannot make decisions that will help anyone but themselves. If you never know poverty or hunger how could you be expected to see them as the problems they are.
    5. Be honest, Be fair, Be patient, never ask a man to do something you can do your self, and never act in bad faith or on self interest. If you do these things you are a worthy leader of men and a man to respect.
    6. Trickle down economics is a failure and a pyramid scheme that consolidates wealth among a privileged few and keeps the rest of us as wage slaves controlled by our own money. Any system based on class will fail sooner or later. Look at history every society, only through breaking down cultural barriers and elevating every man to roughly the same level is it possible to create a sustainable economic and government structure. Look at maslow's hierarchy of needs only through meeting the needs of every man will we be free to reach our full individual potential. Any other scenario simply constrains the masses to rule by a few lucky or manipulative people who would use their power for personal gain.

    Einstein Said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Our "Ruling Elite" are starting to remind me of the French Aristocracy of 1789.

    The idea of might makes right, I can think of another party that liked that idea The Nazi party, and where did that lead. If you think you are better than others because of your money or power, you are already wrong don't be a pompous @$$ on top of it.

    Maybe you dont believe you are being manipulated and preyed apon so here read this.
     
  2. Bolduca

    Bolduca New Member

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    You are being brain washed and let me tell you how. This is going to be fun and I will probably take some flack I picked this info of many forums and psychology pages enjoy then tell me I am Nuts. Most of these are direct snips of information that I picked because they are easy for people to understand then I did some research and found them to be true.

    1.) Chanting Slogans:"You can't solve a complex logic puzzle if I force you to scream over and over while you do it. Meditation works the same way, with chants or mantras meant to "calm the mind." Shutting down those nagging voices in the head is helpful for stressed-out individuals, but even more helpful to a guy who wants to shut down an audience full of nagging internal voices suggesting that what he's saying is a lie."

    2.) Subliminal Messaging: They use source amnesia "The brain has limited storage, so it stores just the important nugget but usually discards the trivial context such as when and where you learned about it. In the era of the web and information overload, that's a mechanism They can exploit very easily. What They have found is that a piece of information--say, an ugly rumor about a politician--can be presented with all sorts of qualifiers but often the brain will only remember the ugly rumor and completely forget the qualifier." (I.E if the rumor comes after the words unsubstantiated.)

    3.) Information Control:"Studies show the brain is wired to get a quick high from reading things that agree with our point of view. The same studies proved that, strangely, we also get a rush from intentionally dismissing information that disagrees, no matter how well supported it is."

    4.) Shame:"Well, there are these primitive, lower parts of your brain called amygdalae that controls those base, emotional reactions. That's where things like contempt and shame come from, and stimulating it can completely shut down the analytical part of your brain."

    5.) Black and White Choices:"Because we evolved from creatures who were always in danger of being eaten, our brains were built on a very simple foundation: the "fight or flight" mechanism. This let us make lightning-fast decisions by boiling every situation into two options. Thousands of years later and still we prefer all-or-nothing choices when we're put under stress."

    6.) Us vs. Them:"We are hard-wired by evolution to form tribes. The more stress we feel, the more we feel love and attachment to those who look and sound the same as us, and the more we feel hatred to those who don't. It's an old survival mechanism."

    7.) Big Baskets:"Stores have hundreds of enormous shopping carts parked conveniently at the entrance. Once you have selected something, you’re more likely to “find” additional items – after all, that empty space in the cart is just begging to be filled"

    8.) Mirrors:"Vanity mirrors slow you down and keep you looking, but there is more than meets the eye. Most people can’t help but check themselves out, and who’s 100% satisfied with what they see? Making you more self-conscious helps you see new items as a solution."

    9.) Bulk:"Misleading bulk sales are another retail favorite. There’s no difference between $5 each and the four for $20 on sale, except that you just might end up with three more than you wanted."

    10.) Displays:"Those towering displays of intricately stacked boxes are called power displays, and they are meant to be speed bumps to slow you down and distract you from finding what you came for."

    11.) The Maze:"Milk, bread, restrooms — all the essentials — are all in the back of the store, because they’re staples that everyone needs, and relatively low margin. Putting them there forces you to check out other merchandise along the way."

    12.) Free Samples:"Stores and restaurants love to stimulate your appetite with provocative sights and smells. Grocery stores capitalize on hungry consumers by offering free samples, but this isn’t charity any more than the smell of freshly baked bread is an accident. These are signals to excite you and tempt you into buying foods that are likely no better for your financial health than your physical health."

    13.) Charge Cards:"There’s a reason why department stores so cheerfully help you afford that overpriced indulgence with a discount on with a store charge card – they make the money later. You’re much more likely to buy big impulse items if you don’t have to count the dollars out the wallet you are holding."

    14.) Children:"Manufacturers advertise to children aggressively, so kids are primed to seek out products they have been exposed too. Stores know that catching a kid’s attention is a great way to get distracted parents to fork over cash for an impulse buy, and they purposefully put colorful, fun, shiny items within their reach."

    15.) The Check out:"Drinks, candy, gum, media – all right by the checkout counter. This section is convenient in part because it is compact and limited, but it also means you can’t compare prices, and may not get your favorite brand."

    16.) The .99 Solution: People are much more likely to purchase an item if its price ends in .99. This is a way of tricking your brain into thinking you getting a deal which looks better $10.00 or $9.99 think about it.

    Surprise people human behavior is predictable and once you know that you can manipulate people into doing what you want politically and financially. They teach this stuff to people in business, in Politics, and in psychology. You are being preyed on by very smart people, educate your selves learn their tricks and see the truth. There are so many more examples than the above. They are using statistics and probability to control you.

    Want more check this out.

    ad·ver·tis·ing   [ad-ver-tahy-zing]
    noun
    1. the act or practice of calling public attention to one's product, service, need, etc., especially by paid announcements in newspapers and magazines, over radio or television, on billboards, etc.: to get more customers by advertising.

    prop·a·gan·da   [prop-uh-gan-duh] Show IPA
    noun
    1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
    2. the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.
    3. the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement.

    Eerie how similar the two are is it not; maybe because they are basically the same thing. Advertising works kind of like smoking addiction first you plant the idea in someones mind then you associate it with things they enjoy and see every day. (I.E. Have you ever seen a fat kid in a Mac Donald's commercial, no its always kids having fun on a playground or some other pleasing place.) Next thing you know when ever you do that activity or go to a similar place BAM! The idea pops into you head. The same thing happens with smokers, (Note:I am not picking on smokers I smoke too and think the ever increasing rules about smoking are stupid and meaningless I know it will kill me Surprise again I do not care.) after they are addicted they begin to associate smoking with eating, conversation, or drinking next thing you know you are smoking when you do all there things, because you associate smoking with these things. No advertising can't make you do anything but it can make you think about it. Now go plop your kids in front of the television and let them watch those ads for the next 10 years or so and see what happens. Wake up don't be a zombie consumer that's what they want. Shout it from the roof tops spread the word one man cannot change the world but he can point the way.

    It is impossible to escape the impression that people commonly use false standards of measurement — that they seek power, success and wealth for themselves and admire them in others, and that they underestimate what is of true value in life. Sigmund Freuid
     
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    Want more here choke on this.

    Here is more of a rant for you guys.

    Fun fact the GDP of the united states("Gross domestic product (GDP) refers to the market value of all final goods and services produced within a country in a given period") is 14.2 Trillion. The United States Population is 307.007 Million. That is $46,253.01 Per American citizen yearly I believe if my math is correct. Now the fun facts. "One approximation of the annual number of homeless in America is from a study by the National Law centre on Homelessness and Poverty, which estimates between 2.3 and 3.5 million people experience homelessness.""More than 40 percent of those experiencing homeless live entirely un-sheltered, and nearly a fifth of them are categorized as being ‘chronically homeless.’ Nationwide, homelessness was down from 2005 to 2007 in all categories, but, at the beginning of the year, the Alliance released an addendum suggesting as many as 1.5 million more Americans could become homelessess due to the rising employment and ensnaring foreclosures of the the Great Recession." That pretty much says it all.

    Now before you Republicans jump me and tell these poor people to get a job I have some more fun facts."One out of 50—or about 1.5 million—American children are homeless each year, according to a 2009 study by the National centre on Family Homelessness.""23 percent of homeless people are reported as chronically homeless. According to HUD's definition, a person who is "chronically homeless" is an unaccompanied homeless individual with a disabling condition (e.g., substance abuse, serious mental illness, developmental disability, or chronic physical illness) who has either been continuously homeless for a year or more, or has had at least four episodes of homelessness in the past three years.""For persons in families, the three most commonly cited causes, according to a 2008 U.S. Conference of Mayors study are:

    Lack of affordable housing

    Poverty

    Unemployment

    For singles, the three most commonly cited causes of homelessness are:

    Substance abuse

    Lack of affordable housing

    Mental illness


    About 40% of homeless men are veterans, although veterans comprise only 34 percent of the general adult male population, according to research on veterans by the National Coalition for Homeless. On any given night, 200,000 veterans are homeless."

    Thanks for not forgetting the children and Vets America, and shame on you. If you don't Believe me look it up. I did, and we call our selves good people how do we sleep at night. Well I know how I sleep and its not well maybe that's because I have a conscience.

    I am not advocating redistributing every ones wealth just that Income Disparity must be made much smaller before those at the top of this Pyramid scheme of an economy have every thing and the rest of us are left to starve. If you are lucky or smart enough to be blessed with wealth and power it is your duty to improve the lives of those who allowed you to acquire such abundance. It is not your right to take advantage of people for personal gain for the sake of personal gain. People have a civic duty to advance the society they live in for the good of every one not just them selves, or else what is the point of society. No a ditch digger should not make as much as a doctor but they should make enough to live in relative comfort. It is an atrocity that in a country as developed as our own people are discarded by society and left to rot for no better reason than they are old, poor, or disabled. A topic that seems to be mostly ignored by politicians and the public in general. What are we doing for these people? We open shelters that are more dangerous than living in the streets. We create laws that put them in prison for no other reason than they are less fortunate than others. This violates both the 5th and the 14th amendments.

    Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    In many cases when a homeless persons camp is found by police they are rounded up and their property destroyed to make them leave the area, if they are not fined and or thrown in jail. Where are they going to go without a physical address you cannot get a job or any help in any way. Who do you complain to if the police are the ones kicking you out of your tent.

    Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights

    1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

    3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

    5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

    We cannot ignore this problem.

    Now as for market price regulation the way things are is fine as long as we close the gap between rich and poor putting every one closer to the same level. That level should be much less drastic. Its about respect in a sense, respect for your fellow man, for those who have been to prison I mean Respect not Fear that seems to be a source of confusion in prison mistaking one for the other. As for enslaving intelligence it is about social responsibility. We are all members of this country and as members of a nation we have cretin rights and responsibilities to our fellow men. If you were lucky enough or smart enough to better your self you have a responsibility to try and better your fellow mans conditions, or at the very least understand their plight. If a problem is not addressed then it never goes away it festers like an untreated wound until no cure can be effective.

    Since the dawn of man we have had the same class structure rich and poor, have and have not, and this has destroyed every government and society by dividing its people when they should be working together to better their nation. Not preying on one another to survive.
     
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    This is how well though out the manipulation of the masses is.

    Ellul wrote in Propaganda: The Formation of Men’s Attitudes: "Direct propaganda, aimed at modifying opinions and attitudes, must be preceded by propaganda that is sociological in character, slow, general, seeking to create a climate, an atmosphere of favorable preliminary attitudes. No direct propaganda can be effective without pre-propaganda, which, without direct or noticeable aggression, is limited to creating ambiguities, reducing prejudices, and spreading images, apparently without purpose. …

    All the Propaganda/advertising in the US right now on billboards, the radio, television and other media. Do you really think it is just benign? Or maybe it is there to create "Information overload". This is a term popularized by Alvin Toffler in his bestselling 1970 book Future Shock. It refers to the difficulty a person can have understanding an issue and making decisions that can be caused by the presence of too much information.

    If they keep you confused and distract you from the issues it is shure a lot easier to lie to you is it not.
     

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