By What Right Do You Threaten Our Gun Rights?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by darrenlobo, Jun 12, 2016.

  1. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should be on dancing with the stars....eh? Your two step shuffle would win hands down! "Eliminate the reason, and the criminal has no reason to do the crime." This is an incredibly unobtainable belief. Proven fact since the inception of man. DDos (doubling down on stupid) laws does nothing to eliminate the reason as history proves. Try another concept. How do you explain this?
     
  2. danielpalos

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    due process?
     
  3. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    Not having a good understanding of Cost theory?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The same reason non-aggressive countries all have a military.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except for the 80% of violent criminals who do it over and over.

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    Psychopathy isn't so easily eliminated.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You realize of course there's no comparison to stealing bread and this: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/us/chicago-gage-park-family-stabbing/
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everything has a reason, not all reasons can be removed or solved.
     
  9. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    Sure, but that's common ground in this conversation. Until we know for sure what is the cause of everything we can't save everyone. So that's why we do the next best thing and try to save as many people as possible.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More dodgeball? No answer? I accept your concession! Thanks
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Sure, why not? Want to go get ice cream or something? I'll pay you back on pay day.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well according to Krane it's simple " Eliminate the reason, and the criminal has no reason to do the crime." Of course that's an incredibly unobtainable purpose and no solution has been proposed. Alas you are entirely correct. Good post

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    lets go with dancing lessons :wink:
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Eh, YOLO!
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    EH! YEHAW!!!!
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Wait are we square dancing? Because if so I need to get my boots!
     
  16. Colonel K

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    The NRA is God? Even in old West Tombstone gun control was stricter.

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    There is no such thing as due process that makes violating the rights of others moral. Courts, elections, legislative proceedings, don't give the govt officials a legit power to do what the individual shouldn't do. If you as an individual don't have the right to to take someone else's guns then you can't delegate that right to the govt. What's wrong for the individual is wrong for the collective.
     
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    Why are you answering a question with a question? Who are you to judge what someone does or doesn't need? Please answer the question, By What Right Do You Threaten Our Gun Rights?
     
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    Do you believe that the world is not a violent place?
     
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    Colonel K does not give a rats bums about anything other than an excuse for banning guns.
     
  21. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Naw...Line dancing and you still need your Sh%t kickers :smile:
     
  22. Maccabee

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    First place guns don't have to be aggressive, they can also be defensive. And to answer your question is because there are aggressive people out there.
     
  23. Maccabee

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    We all realize it. The problem is certain people think banning high capacity magazines is equivalent to making laws that ban yelling fire in a theater when there isn't one. The latter puts imminent danger to other people, the former doesn't. What WOULD be the equivalent is saying you can't wave your gun at people unless they are threatening you.
     
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    The guy with the gun is more apted to defend himself from the shooter than the mom with the child. In fact the man with the gun can defend the mother and child.
     
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    You are claiming it is immoral. Due process means the person has a right to a trial by a jury of his peers.
     

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