Cain: Rick Perry Insensitive Toward Blacks

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  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    Herman Cain: Rick Perry Is 'Insensitive' Toward Black People

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    Following a Washington Post report that Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry's family hunting camp in Texas once had the word "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)head" painted on a large rock at its entrance, the Perry campaign is scrambling to control the damage.

    Perry insists that his father painted over the offensive word on the Fourth of July weekend of 1983 or 1984, as soon as his family began leasing the property, and his campaign communications director Ray Sullivan pointed out in a statement that Perry's family never actually owned the West Texas property.

    "A number of claims made in the story are incorrect, inconsistent and anonymous, including the implication that Rick Perry brought groups to the lease when the word on the rock was still visible," he said. "The one consistent fact in the story is that the word on a rock was painted over and obscured many years ago."

    Sullivan's statement conflicts with some of the witnesses' accounts in the Washington Post story, which allege that the racial slur was still visible throughout the '80s and "as recently as this summer."

    Fellow Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, who is now neck and neck with Perry, according to a recent Fox News poll, took the opportunity on Sunday to call Perry "insensitive" for his handling of the situation.

    "There isn't a more vile, negative word than the 'n word,' and for him to leave it there as long as they did is just plain insensitive to a lot of black people in this country," he said during an interview on "Fox News Sunday."

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    I was curious to see how conservatives would respond to this story... most notably the charges Mr. Cain makes regarding Perry's insensitivity and alleged lack of motivation in ridding of the sign. Before I elaborate any further, I'm eager to see if there are any early reactions.

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  2. Zook

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    Well our "President" is insensitive toward Whites by speaking of "typical White people" and attending hate sermons by his friend Rev. Wright so I don't think anyone with a brain cares what Herman Cain thinks.

    Perry attended that camp in 1983 or so. Well, a long time ago Obama (the freaking President of the United States, no less) said "I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother's race."

    But no one cares about that. So why should we care about this?
     
  3. Smartmouthwoman

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    Nobody's more racially insensitive to black folks than Barack Obama. 17% unemployment rate hurts a helluva lot more than obscene words painted on a rock.
     
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  4. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Believe me, I understand the urge to somehow include Obama in comments made by Cain toward Perry... really. I actually sat here for a minute trying to find a way to somehow link Barack to this, but couldn't... because this thread isn't about him.

    Sucks, I know.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This about Rick Perry and his family's campground which they apparently thought was a good idea to call (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)head.

    I'm sure that this will raise Rick Perry popularity with the right.
     
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    Don't do it, Herman. Don't play the race card just to get ahead. You're better than that. You don't need it. If you resort to liberal race tactics, I'll be forced to stop supporting you.
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

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    It was racially insensitive... but if we're gonna punish Rick Perry for the sins of his parents, shouldn't we be able to do the same thing to Barack Obama? He didn't exactly have model parents, did he?
     
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    This is nothing but another media hit piece. Sure this piece of land had that written on a rock...like VANdalism. And when Perry's father became a partner it was painted over because Mr. Perry said that it was wrong. The media thinks they can do this to every gop candidate picking them off one by one. I think Mr. Cain has been duped along with everyone else. I wish candidates on the right would not be drawn into these vile plots by the leftist media and politicians.
     
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    You're exactly right. From the link:

    BFD
     
  10. toddwv

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    The funny, albeit it sad, thing about this is that it will increase Rick Perry's popularity in the Republican Party while Herman Cain's reaction to it

    "My reaction is, that’s just very insensitive,” Cain told Fox. “[There] isn’t a more vile, negative word than the N-word, and for him to leave it there as long as he did, before I hear that they finally painted over it, is just plain insensitive to a lot of black people in this country."

    will likely result in a decline for Herman Cain.

    'Cause there is no such thing as racism to the American right-wing no matter how bad the racism actually is.
     
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    Awww, that's not what this is about, Todd. This is just another lame attempt to pit Republican against Republican. Libs have taken the term from 'racially insensitive' to racist. Nobody's buying it.
     
  12. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    Of course, as no one said you couldn't. Obama has definitely made some questionable remarks that everyone is free to criticize. I just don't see what this topic has to do with Obama. Honestly, as much as I try to tie words on a rock to the current Potus, I can't. Is that wrong of me?

    If not, it's my hope that we can finally have an honest discussion about racial perceptions, because (for once) the two people involved are people who we wouldn't regularly associate with "playing the race card" which comes easily with liberals who are critical of certain actions. How wrong is Perry for this? Should he be questioned further on it or should it be let go? If it should be let go... why? Is Cain wrong for this? Is he actually playing a card or addressing a relevant gripe?
     
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    The story is ridiculous and reeks of dirty tricks coming out of the Cain campaign. I like Cain but he should tell whoever in his campaign is steering him in this direction to stop it. No one is responsible for what someone else writes on a rock at a deer lease that one goes to a couple times a year. Next, they'll be trying to claim that Perry is responsible for any restroom he ever used where there was racist or sexist comments on the walls.

    Come on Cain--no reason to stoop this low.
     
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    So evidently Perry's family hunting camp is named n-wordhead... which appeared on a large flat rock as you pulled in. He says his folks painted it in 83, but a lot of people, according to the Washington Post, said it wasn't painted until the 90s. Cain called it insensitive, and demonstrates something about it's owner.

    So... after he started having lawmakers out to the offending camp... he did at least turn the stone over. Didn't fix it.... then returned it, and painted lightly over it... and was still visible this summer. Just a quick whitewash. Funny that.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2011-10-02/perry-cain-hunting-camp-name/50634568/1
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.947744aa7f2a9543ab7c4b0e24b9136c.191
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/10/02/why-rick-perrys-racist-hunting-camp-sign-matters/
     
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    Another reason not to support Perry and support Cain.
     
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    It should be interesting to see how they spin this one....
     
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    This is really a very straight forward matter. If the facts establish that Perry did not act there are two conclusions. First, Perry is racially insensitive. Second, Cain is absolutely correct.

    If the facts ultimately established show that the allegations against Perry are without merit there are two conclusions. First, Perry is the victim of vile racial charges. Second, Cain is a clever political opportunist.

    I like Cain. I hope he wins everything. His lack of foreign policy experience is of limited importance because the crisis is at home, not overseas.
     
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    Rick Perry had wonderful parents. This silly story is campaign fodder....probably furnished to Cain by some Austin liberals, if I had to guess.
     
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    Baloney! So IF you go into a restroom and there's nasty sexist and racist grafitti scratched on the walls, does that make YOU a racist or sexist because you did nothing about it??? Or let's say you painted over it......are you STILL a racist or sexist???

    This is a really stupid story.
     
  20. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    Is it my restroom? Just entertaining the legitimacy of the analogy.
     
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    Neither is a deer 'lease' owned by the person who leases it. In Texas, one gets a deer lease....sometimes going in on it with others.....and they might use it a couple times that year during deer or dove season. The property is owned by someone else. 1000+ acres? Anyone could have written that on that rock at the entrance. A hunting lease just means you are paying a property owner to hunt on his property during the hunting season.
     
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    But not just any one entered into the deer lease. When faced with a moral dilemma the choices one makes tell us who one is.
     
  23. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    I don't have a releave lease when I walk into a public bathroom. My name isn't associated, nor can it be attached to it or it's contents... so a lack of motivation on my part to fix the place up is pretty reasonable & expected. A lease with my family name on it? Not so much.
     
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    I can't imagine any respectable person having a name like that for their camp grounds - or any of their property. And now covering it up or painting over it just doesn't cut it - he had left it there way to long........ what a guy....:twisted:

    Cain's right. Something like that says a lot about the person's character........
     
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    A (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)head is a flower

    http://www.nature-and-flower-pictures.com/black-eyed-susan.html
    Black-Eyed Susan Flowers Are Known by Several Names:

    Black-Eyed Susan;
    Yellow or Ox-Eye Daisy;
    (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)-head;
    Golden Jerusalem;
    Purple Cone-flower

    Their botanical name is Rudbeckia hirta. I wonder where in the world these scientific names come from, don't you?


    Cain using this as race baiting is a reason why I WONT support him.And for him to take the bait from a Leftist leaning paper like the Washington Post instead of finding the facts first is even more bogus.I would expect this crap from Sharpton,or Jesse Jackson,but not Herman Cain.To accuse a fellow Republican of racism is disgusting,I found the whole story disgusting.
     

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