California city, making it the ‘land of milk and fentanyl

Homelessness has ‘exploded’ in this California city, making it the ‘land of milk and fentanyl,’ activist says

OAKLAND, Calif. – Open-air drug markets, narcotic tourism, rampant theft and lax camping regulation have made Oakland "unlivable," a neighborhood advocate told Fox News.

"Oakland and San Francisco have become the promised land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here," Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox News. "People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from here. They're drug tourists."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/homeless...-city-making-land-milk-fentanyl-activist-says

Here we have an example of how bad things can get. What should we do?

 

Legalize and drugs and this is what you get

 

Pretty sure nobody has legalized fentanyl.

 

older thread: Seattle drug addicts openly smoking fentanyl in public buses, complaints about fumes

 

Im fine with legalized drugs as long as it doesn't affect others. if someone wants to sniff glue, or smoke crack in the privacy of their own home, no problem. if they are taking over neighborhoods, they need to be held accountable.

 

Unfortunately it does. It causes an increase in crime rates to the surrounding area, and the drug addicts have children.
If you could find a way to address those two issues, it might be a different story.

We see in San Francisco that they're crapping all over the sidewalks.

 

Democrats desire to remove the legal repercussions of drug use because they emotionally feel bad for the addicts and make them victims of the addiction leads to more rampant and growing drug use.

It's the simple principle the left can't seem to grasp.

 

I'm against the war on drugs and harsh over-punishments, but just making it all legal and not really doing anything about the problem is not the solution.

I've suggested the idea in the past that for those addicts who are incorrigible, just send them off to a specially newly built city off in the middle of nowhere, kind of like a freer more pleasant version of a minimum security prison more similar to a normal city, no cars, and then either gender-segregate or require sterilization. Then they can live out there away from the rest of society. The others would get forced treatment in drug rehab facilities. Put them back in for 40 days if the first time didn't work.

 

Used to work with that guy. He was a labor rep a few years ago, now I guess he’s a drug expert.
Oakland used to be where us from the near suburbs went to buy drugs. They cleaned that up years ago, maybe it’s making a come back.

 

Neither did the war on drugs, I don’t think there is a silver bullet for this problem. Just say no!

 

Pot was illegal until recently. When I smoked pot, I had to go to a high crime area and find a guy named Flaco. Now, there's an app on your phone and with a few clicks, a guy wearing a man bun delivers it!

Keeping drugs illegal does nothing.

 

Hurts my heart seeing these drug addicted cities. I used to think legalized drugs was a good thing. But it prays on young adults and gets them into the same criminal life style that existed with the drug being illegal. Sad to see these children and teens on the streets, all i can think of is them being born a precious baby at the hospital and now live like garbage and get treated like garbage. **** drugs, **** fentanyl, **** meth, **** the destroyer of dignity.

 

We didn't have nearly the drug issue we have during the Just Say No - War on Drugs campaign that we see now infecting cities that have legalized drug use on the street.



The war on drugs started in 1971.


https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/08/06/new-law-would-allow-safe-drug-injection-sites-in-oakland-sf/




THIS isn't working.

 

There is definitely a spike in overdosing, but I don’t know that is proof that addiction is up. California has not legalized fentanyl or anything but weed, so how can that be the cause.

 

Keep in mind about a quarter of the entire population in the state are children of undocumented immigrants.
It's possible they may be more vulnerable to drug addiction because of the gene pool. (That and many times their parents were gone all day working and they were latch-key kids) More illegal immigrants also means more drug dealers, naturally.
There may be an economic connection as well. Young adults may be turning to drugs at higher rates because they cannot afford rent or housing, in that area. (Suicide rates and mental health problem rates were also higher)

 

Not sure that’s the natural conclusion, and where do you get that stat about children of illegals being 1/4 the state?

 

They aren't arresting or prosecuting open drug use either.

Might be still illegal, but if they aren't enforcing it, it's not really illegal.

 

Democrat ideal world is one in which the elite Democrats rule from their gated communities whilst their brain dead mob keep them in power with their brain dead votes.

They have many ways of ensuring their mob is properly brain dead:

1) schools sucking(A job in that Dems)
2) illegal immigration. Uneducated masses of poor people who are unassimilated and can’t even speak English. why yes please!


3) drugs. ^^ all that other stuff is waaaay too slow. Nothing kills brain cells faster than drugs!

 

Source?

 

Yet it’s dems who the college educated prefer. Go figure lol

 

Who exactly do you think are the kids of the Democrat elite I mentioned?

Durrrrrr

 

The same college educated who couldn't figure out variable rate student loans that exceed first year earnings by 5 times and now expect everybody else to pay it off for them?

Let's not put so much emphasis on college education. I have post secondary degrees and was an adjunct professor for a number of years. Common sense can't be learned from a book, and that's largely what is talked about in politics. Common sense.

 

In 2000, Californians passed Proposition 36, which allowed people convicted on nonviolent drug possession charges to receive a probationary sentence in return for completing a drug treatment program. In 2014, the state passed Prop. 47, which re-classified the personal usage of most drugs as a misdemeanor.

https://sfstandard.com/2023/06/12/why-san-francisco-does-not-police-open-drug-use/

 

I didn’t bring up education, I don’t disagree that it’s not a full measure of intelligence

 

A misdemeanor or probation is still a prosecution. I don’t think treating addicts like hardened criminals is helpful to anyone. I’ve know lots of addicts, and none got clean by going to prison. In fact many have said it’s easier to get drugs in prison than on the street.