California city to experiment with 'universal basic income'

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    NO, STOP DOING THAT!! YOU'RE JUST REALLY REALLY PISSING OFF THE REAL GOD BY PRAYING TO SO MANY OTHER FALSE GODS!! There are literally THOUSANDS of claimed gods, so unless you are an arrogant prick you can't possibly believe that you can pick the one true god out of thousands!
    I'm just trying to help.
     
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    leftism is a religion...

    built around the idea that humans will willingly submit to a handful of omnipotent moral busybodies' definition of Fairness™, Equality™, Social Justice™ and The Collective Good™

    one of my favorite quotes:

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” -- C.S. Lewis
     
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    I like the idea of transferring much of the revenue flowing into the government structure to accounts controlled by productive labor.

    Welfare for the able idle should be humane and unattractive to the recipients. Absent a minimum wage a nutritionist designed diet would put most to work ASAP. Carson's food boxes are interesting, but the logistics may be difficult.
     
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    Jesus and the Bible approved of totalitarian ideologies, such as dictators and kings - they didn't understand that democracy (representative republics) is what's best for humanity, the fools. So much for being "all-knowing".
     
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    damn. and I thought I had it covered by placating the main players. should I go B grade?
     
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    round about. incidentally, it's the same purple jello which makes up 99.9% of the Progressive brain.
     
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    Celestial tyrannies are the worst - Kim Jong Un believes that if his subjects don't just THINK like he does then he'll have them brutally tortured in his gulag - that's just like the celestial dictator in the Bible - think differently than he does and he'll have you brutally tortured in his own gulag ("hell"). But god's gulag is far far more barbaric, and for a far far longer time, so of course god is more of a barbarian than even Kim Jong Un(civilized) is.
     
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    Friendly tip: when you're doing that bathroom work, beware of the occasional floating god!
     
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    Yes, their philosophy is basically: the more money I take from hard-working people ("revenue enhancement", they like to call it) the BETTER of a person I must be! Wow.
     
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    Yes, time to hit the Minor Leagues: the wacky Mormon god, and Tom Cruise's god (Xenu), and Morgan Freeman, etc....you know, the gods that ride the short bus.

    PS Actually Morgan's pretty cool.
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    Do "Progressive" and "brain" actually belong in the same sentence?
    Sort of a Jumbo Shrimp kind of thing?
     
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    Be very very careful to not pray to the god of the Bible - or else the real god won't let you into heaven obviously because you're obviously immoral if you pray to a GENOCIDAL god (the Biblical god killed virtually all humans and even all the innocent animals in his genocidal "flood")! The real god will comment, sarcastically, "Jeez, crank, why didn't you just pray to HITLER, he was genocidal too!!"

    You've been warned.
     
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    Bad news - no god would let you into their "heaven" anyway, because they can read your mind and you're obviously not actually gullible enough to actually believe in any magic "god" up in the sky in the first place - so better just give up the ruse. Religions are not interested in smart people like you.
     
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    True left yes not progressive left they are socialists pure and simple...I could see a moderate Dem making a case to study this.

    I am not going to twitch respond to this experiment yet. It's possible in a society with strong work ethic, family values.. Yes those still should mean something, civic duty, respect for others... Especially police.. It's possible something for the lower class like this could be of benefit and I would support it but don't ask me to PAY for it ok?

    I just don't think outside of a controlled fishbowl our society would either appreciate or not flat out take advantage of such a thing. Too many self entitled bad apples. Users.

    By all means if some super rich billionaires and such wanna pass down some Dinero to the poor go ahead.

    If California does this study and it meets with success even minimal I predict progressive left socialists will take the data and try and tax us all on it. Or at least their state. I guarantee it.
     
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    A whole slew of emotional nonsense, since we've never tried it, you can't make these claims.

    Also, since when is the right alright with comparing this nation to others?

    Income inequality? Can't discuss sweden.

    Healthcare? Can't chat about france.

    Gun control? Can't discuss the uk.

    Now all of a sudden were allowed to compare?

    Pathetically transparent.
     
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    The system required it to function if you understood basic economics you would know this.
     
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    along with "I'm white and rich and safe, so Imma dictate the terms of life for all the little brown peeps". along with "folks r dumb wr I come frum"
     
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    atheist here, but I'm pretty sure Free Will is a recurring theme in Judaism and Christianity.
     
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    Wait, they can't EDUCATE people about the greatness of democracy (they didn't), but they CAN educate people during the Sermon On The Mount? WTF? Educating does not interfere with free will - or else Jesus would never have tried to educate people like he did.
     
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    I know exatly what you mean

    But most liberals dont
     
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    What? Nonsense. How is it free will if you're either given it or commanded to have it?
     
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    Pride is the lead sin in the bible. Lol. Do you people listen to yourselves
     
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    Yes, and the most egotistical, prideful SOB of all (even more prideful than Trump!) is the psycho egomaniac who said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
    He's basically saying (picture a bratty 2 year-old screaming this) "It's all about ME, ME, ME!!"

    What a sane person would say is, instead "No ones comes to the Father except through being ethical and doing good work." I'd say that, but then I've moved beyond this psycho.
     
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    The point of the min wage. If you want people to be able to eat and not be homeless and are willing to pay subsidies if employer wages fall short that's... Min wage. Changing the name doesn't make it a new (or better) idea.

    An idea I had yesterday is this, outsourced work. A person could have someone (unemployed and qualified to do their work) come in and work in their name. The actual employee would only get 25% pay with the other 75% going to the sub. Great way of taking a sick day or vacation if you don't have paid leave and puts money in the pocket of the unemployed person subbing for them.
     
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