California Governor Gavin Newsom Imposes Country’s First K-12 Vaccine Mandate

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  1. cd8ed

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    Are y’all against vaccines in general for children or just the COVID vaccine?

    Here is the list of my very conservative states vaccine requirements for students
    https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/immunization-program/ip/immunization-requirements.html

    Should we abolish all vaccines around the country and let god sort em out? Let parents decide from political ideology instead of medical professionals?
     
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    They have to get the vaccine or weekly tests.
     
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    Funny how that's not an option for children who are more likely to end up in the hospital due to the vaccine complications than die from covid.
    Hell, the FDA proved they aren't completely brain dead like radical democrats are. At least they said no to boosters for younger people. I think they will say no to endangering kindergardeners with unnecessary vaccines as well.
     
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    Used to be a form of music but then liberalism gave birth to the Marxist cancer that is progressivism and so now proggy is just a way to refer to progressives in a borderline derogatory way. As far as education goes, well, they have none. Because true to the origins of Marx, one doesn't become a progressive by being educated - it takes indoctrination.
     
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    I’m glad to hear you’ll endorse the fda decision
     
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    Haven't made my mind up yet. I tell you that I don't much like that it would kick in on the next semester after FDA approval. I have no reason to believe the FDA cant be corrupted by the same bureaucratic politics that befell the CDC. I think more time is appropriate for world-wide peer review so that we can have a consensus on safety rather than just the rubber stamp of a single federal agency. I'd rather see nation wide mask mandates tried first.
     
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    Hooray for a fascist authoritarian dictatorship please government make all my choices and take away my rights in the name of my safety!!!
     
  8. WalterSobchak

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    Yeah, because schools have never ever required parents provide proof of vaccinations.

    LOL, y'all need to find a new hill to die on.
     
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    Oh, we’re not the ones who’re going to die on this hill.
     
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    Which one of those is under EUA?
     
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    Vaccines that were created like 2 days ago?

    No.
     
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    No one is asking to abolish vaccinations, just get rid of government mandates.
     
  13. WalterSobchak

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    But you are, by the thousands, daily. But take your livestock dewormer if that makes ya happy.
     
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    How are you not aware that the FDA has fully approved the Pfizer vaccine?
     
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    Mrna research has been around for decades. It's not my fault cons don't believe and trust science.
     
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    I’m not taking dewormer, in fact I’ve gotten my two shots, and booster. But that is MY decision not the government’s.
     
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  17. WalterSobchak

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    Is it your choice to wear a seatbelt? Is it your choice to not drive intoxicated? Is it your choice to not smoke in restaurants and airplanes? It used to be your choice to do all of those I listed until the government mandated us to no longer do such things.
     
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    It should be, yes, yes, and yes. These are the actions of a totalitarian government, not the actions a small government restricted to enumerated powers only.
     
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    Children are already required to be vaccinated against childhood disease like MMR and Tdap to attend public schools. Stop pretending like Newsom is enacting some new law.

    As for the argument about being infected and having antibodies, Trump got the vaccine despite having antibodies, so you can damn guarantee it was recommended by available medical science.

    Some people only have mild symptoms of COVID or no symptoms at all, so don't develop strong immune responses. Natural immunity is thus only protective for a certain amount of time due to the lack of peak response.
     
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    So you want anarchy?
     
  21. mswan

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    There is actual data on those vaccinations. What we may be doing here is mandating the use of Thalidomide.
     
  22. mswan

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    Nope, small government with powers limited to those enumerated in the Constitution. Limited government is not the same as no government.
     
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    Note Newsom said the mandate would happen after FDa approval. Trials are currently being run. Do you believe the FDA will make their decision without actual data?
     
  24. mswan

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    Yes. I wouldn’t buy a new car model in it’s first year either, even though it’s been tested.
     
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    Democrats have always hated Big Pharma until Trump caused Big Pharma to go in a hurry to create vaccines.
    Will the Democrats appreciate the vaccines we got faster due to Trump?
    Biden has to be wetting his pants.
     

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