California To Borrow Money For Unemployment Funds

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  1. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

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    Well perhaps giving illegal aliens stimulus payments was not the best ideal. I mean if you can afford it, then go with it...

    If not the just borrow from legal tax paying non Californians citizens to do it I guess..

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...ent-to-make-unemployment-payments-11588617257

    That state is absolute train wreck these days. Liberal failures on full display for all to see.

    Don’t worry CA, the other states will pull you out of the fire you started.
     
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    When did they do that? Stimulus checks were from the Fed and issued according to tax returns.
     
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    California will be the first state to send money to illegal immigrants who did not qualify for assistance under the $2.2 trillion federal coronavirus stimulus package passed last month.

    Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday announced the allocation of $75 million in taxpayer funds for $500 payments to 150,000 adult immigrants who are reeling from the economic effects of the coronavirus pandemic.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/16/ca-to-pay-illegals-not-included-in-coronavirus-stimulus/
     
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    Well, they are hypercritical to the economy. It makes sense. They will surely spend it.

    The question is should they borrow while issuing stimulus money. Whether this is an effective means of providing stimulus is a second question. Since the economy can't know if the person spending money is illegal or not, I'm guessing it is as effective as any other stimulus cash.

    The idea that it makes sense to borrow in order to provide a stimulus is a foregone conclusion. That is the only kind of stimulus that exists.
     
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    You know this might seem like a crazy idea but undocumented migrants are... consumers too. If you have a portion of your population not getting the economic aid they need there better be a good economic reason for it.

    And if anyone responds with "But Kranes, Americans are struggling, we need to bail out Americans first, we're citizens. We deserve it", that's just a bad argument. Nationality won't matter when you need money for food.
     
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    Yeah no surprise some lefties are fine with California giving illegals CA state tax money and then turning to the other states when they need more money..

    None of my business what CA does, until they reach into my pocket to do it.
     
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    You don’t take care of your family before strangers in need?

    Of course you do. It’s not cruel, it’s common sense. Nothing different than a state or country taking care of their citizens before others.

    CA spent money they did not have on illegals and now can’t pay their citizens unemployment. Simply a bad choice.

    But illegals vote in CA so there is that...
     
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    So you respond to an economic argument with 'but my in group feelings, why don't you listen to my in group feelings!". Do undocumented migrants spend money?
     
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    Sadly, many of the illegal workers in California, just like Trump's low wage illegals for Trump's family businesses, work to care of nursing homes, landscapin, houskeeping, cooking, food prep and cleaning up poop in hospitals beds and floors.

    Without those 2nd class worker, how many of these positions will be filled by Trumpers and Republicans?

    None Trumper? One Trumper? There wasn't a week go by when Trump quickly proposed a special low wave class of workers, way below even the miserable minimal wages in the Southern states that actually ban higher rates of pay in those states when some city says they want their city wants more than subhuman income income.
     
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    They need to be deported, not cared for on our dime.
     
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    Americans won't work for wages artificially suppressed by millions of aliens working here.
     
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    Do you say in group mantras because you need to communicate them? Or are they actual policy ideas?

    Do undocumented migrants spend money?
     
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    Yes, money they do not pay taxes on like you or I do.

    See the issue?

    You show up at the pot luck at work with no food but grab a plate I bet.
     
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    Do they buy stuff ie when they buy stuff do they pay a sales tax?
     
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    CA has over a trillion in unfunded liabilities. They are bankrupt now.
     
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    Regardless of rather you think CA did the right thing or not with giving out money to illegals, they gave more than they could afford and not they are knocking on the federal door for money for their tax paying citizens to be paid. That by any standards is crappy management.
     
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    All CA citizens pay sales tax so income tax paying citizens are still paying more than illegals. In CA they have a state income tax as well as federal income taxes. So the working man in CA who pays federal, state and sales tax can not get unemployment because the state govt who keeps him from working with their silly shutdown also gave the tax money to the illegals who only pay sale tax.

    Crappy management 101.
     
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    They have been a economic mess for years. Which considering the size of their economy is not a easy position to "screw up" your way into. Takes some deep liberal stupidity to do that.
     
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    So they pay taxes like citizen.
     
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    No they do not.

    Unless I missed the option not to pay income tax, did I?

    Pick a country, any country. go there, buy a hat and pay the sales tax. Are you now eligible for the same rights as the citizens of that country? Are you a tax paying German, French or Japanese citizen? No you are not.

    Your analogy is childish and disproven with a single phrase.

    Income tax.
     
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    You didn’t say income taxes now did you?
     

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