Calling Jesus out on not letting gays into "heaven" & sending to "hell"

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not a Nazi.

    comparing me to a Nazi, is irrational.
     
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    Beliefs that are not best for the world, such as the barbarity of the Bible/Qur'an need to be condemned/judged.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    only righteous people, who live a good and moral life, have a right to judge.
     
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    Yes, you are about as anti-Nazis as they come (from a Jewish back ground as well), and I honestly applaud you for that. I'm certainly not calling YOU a Nazi, no! But since Jesus is as evil as Hitler, we need to call Jesus/Christians out....Jesus sends all Jews to worse-than-Auschwitz like treatment, and Christians think, get this, that he's the greatest person of all time. He's far worse than Hitler because he does the same with all Muslims (Hitler didn't), and all Hindus (Hitler didn't), etc., etc., etc.
    Jesus has a bigger ego than Hitler and Trump put together.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jesus isn't real, nor is Hell.

    your spending a lot of time worrying about things that dont exist
     
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    That includes me - but I'm not perfect. I am guilty of "tough love", I'll admit, but love nonetheless.

    But even evil Charles Manson could point out that the Bible is evil because it approves, yes approves, of beating slaves, yes, slaves, to death, yes to death. God/Jesus is more evil than even Manson was - did Manson approve of beating slaves to death?
     
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    But Christians/Muslims BELIEVE that "hellfire" is real, so that makes the Bible/Qur'an a real thorn in the side of humanity.
     
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    Then they desperately need our logic and wisdom.
     
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    So convert Christians out of their insane beliefs, then.
     
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    Your claim here is incorrect.
     
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    If they believe that "hellfire" is NOT real, then they'll have no problem removing verses that say so in their Bible!
     
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    Perhaps, if you only look at it superficially. I'd say that most hatred is derivative of ignorance. It doesn't seem to require religiosity.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    can we convert Secular Humanists out of THEIR insane beliefs, to?
     
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    If Jesus had said "love gays as equals, don't discriminate against them, and gay marriage is Ok", I guarantee you the world would be a better place. But Jesus is not nearly as ethical as I am.
     
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    Yes! Go for it - educate us as to a better way, because we, unlike Christians realize our books are fallible. Debate us, and we'll all get to determine for ourselves what is "insane" and what is not.
     
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    Yes, unlike Jesus/Mohammad, we believe in religious freedom for our entire existence (counting the after-life, if any). "My name is Gandhi and I want to get into heaven".....Jesus says "no way, b***h", according to the Bible, basically. But a Modern Secular Humanist would say "welcome, Mr. Gandhi, we've admired you, and look forward to you teaching us in heaven". See the ethical difference between Christians/Muslims and Modern Secular Humanists?
     
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    "Require" is not needed, only "helps" (helps the hatred towards gays.)
     
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    Aside from FreedomSeeker, I'm not aware of any insane secular humanists.
     
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    MOST, but not all, believe that.....hehe, you're a good influence on me.... :)
     
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    Give me two examples of me being insane.
     
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    What MSH beliefs are insane?
     
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    how many times are you going to reply to the same comment?
     
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    Got just one, really, but it's a biggie. What Ronstar said:

    It's like you're on a jihad against everything from the printed works known as the Bible and the Quran to all forms of organized religion and religious belief. Months, years you've spent constantly posting here at an insane pace about these topics.

    I haven't seen this level of crazed obsession over a single topic since a fella who could never shut up about the IL-76 and its usefulness as a fire-fighting plane and the US Forest Service's failure to use it.
     
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    yup
     
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    You should really learn something about religion sometime.

    "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". John 8:7

    Do you understand what it means?

    Don't confuse the immorality of the fake christians with biblical teachings. Many or even most people who say they are christians really are not. They claim christian ideals but don't adhere to them.
     
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