Can anyone show a single piece of viable evidence a GOD exists?

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    You are going to have to explain your use of the word...SINGULARITY to me in your post because as far as I know a SINGULARITY is a ONE DIMENSIONAL EXPRESSION in at minimum 10-D Universal Space-Time such as a Black Hole.

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    I use the words...THANK GOD....just like I use the words...THANK YOU....OR...EXCUSE ME....because I was INDOCTRINATED INTO USING THEM!!!

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    All we get is banal platitudes and obfuscation, not one offers evidence!
     
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    I think Quantum Mechanics shows pretty clearly that our universe is an artificial construct. That said, there is no reason to leap from "artificial construct" to any specific "god".
     
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    Proof is everywhere for you to find. The fact that you are where you are thinking the thoughts you are thinking is evidence of, at a minimum, a God or a Creator.

    Not far from the evidence Francis Collins speaks of when discussing human DNA.
     
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    many times. I also say 'bless you' when someone sneezes. do you know why? because in the early medieval period in Europe, bubonic plague was killing many. it became habit to hope for the best if someone showed symptoms of pretty much anything. some of us (Christians included) won't walk under ladders, or cross the path of a black cat. want to talk about the origins of those little habits?
     
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    so did the Hindus. and the Buddhists. and the Muslims. and the Shintoists. and the Daoists. and the Jediists. I guess you believe all of them, too, since the recording of 'evidence' is that's needed - according to your statement above.
     
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    God Knows, the overwhelming urge to believe in a big invisible magical sky man called Yahweh, who watches every one of us 24/7, who's his own son (who's also magic and sometimes visits earth to pretend to die) but not really, who makes snakes talk, turns people into salt, drowns babies, and controls everything in the universe .... well that's an urge that must be fought very hard.
     
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    I see no evidence anywhere. Where and what is this evidence?

    And how did you reach the conclusion that our existence is evidence of some sort of creator?
     
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    I do. What's your point?

    Let me guess .... you're going to trundle out the old chestnut about disciplining for 'their own good'. since you're keen on chestnuts, here's mine in response:
    I don't punish my kids with infinite torture in a lake of fire for finite 'crimes'. I don't kill them, or threaten to kill them. I don't kill or threaten to kill their firstborn. I don't stone them, or banish them, or generally behave like a completely insane monster.
     
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    Do you realize the Torah is part of the tanakh
     
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    As I said in an earlier post that you may or may not have seen, even if a "Creator" could be proven, and I'd argue that QM does just that, it doesn't follow that Creator is the deity spoke of in any ancient human text.
     
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    Because no evidence exists to back any ancient Man Created Monotheistic Texts.

    But.....I will offer u something and although I would not call it Proof a GOD exists....I consider it some kind of evidence that there is much more going on that people understand.

    My JOB which I am retiring from is a difficult one as it involves Leading a Team of members of the U.S. Military and sometimes British SAS and as I am NOT MILITARY and because I was needed and a Relative of mine who did the same thing I now do helped me get a SIGNED DEAL.....I am every Political Ladder Climbing....Military Low Ranking Officer KISS A$$....PAC CHAIRMAN.....POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE FUNDRAISER....and POLITICIAN'S NIGHTMARE!!!

    Why?

    Because I am self made and extremely wealthy I cannot be bought.....because I am not Military thus I do not Salute anyone nor an I some ASSET OR AGENCY STOODGE....that get's sent into a meat grinder just so some A$$H@L# can find out if the enemy is there.....and most of all.....BECAUSE I HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS.....I am a Highly Trained, Beyond Highly Educated, Plugged Into the System, Owed Favors by EVERYONE as I have spent my time GIVING OUT FAVORS awith the exception of one time to one person....rather than always asking for favors.

    ANYWAYS....because all of this I am ASKED NICELY if I might accet any specific JOB handed to me and I can accept to do the JOB ON MY TERMS....or I can refuse.

    I am retiring and I have trained my 2nd...Beta....very well and very soon Beta will have to go up against another vying to replace me and they will be using RUBBER BULLETS....I think they are some kind of Petroleum Tire like material now.....and Beta will be competing against another Highly Trained Former Soldier as those who relace me MUST BE CIVILIAN.

    I did the same thing Beta is soon to do and even though I won I was shot in the wrist and it broke a bone....and when our weaons are placed on Triple Shot Selection....and if the other was to strike their Fake Enemy Combatant somewhere under the helmet or Eye Protection or Kevlar Vest.....that person COULD DIE!!!

    It is about DEATH and SPIRITUALITY that I would like to talk about as once after being shot 3 times at close range by a guy with an AK-47....THANK G...O...D....it was not an M-16 or M-4 because if it was I WOULD BE DEAD as the 5.56×45mm Round achieves such a high state of velocity upon impact with Human Tissue and as our Human Flesh is mosty WATER.....when an M-16 or M4 Rifle and Carbine 5.56×45mm round impacts at such velocity uoon and within Human Tissue the super high velocity of the 5.56×45mm round causes it to begin to TUMBLE rather than just Spin and this means such a high powered and high velocity round that this TUMBLING causes EXTREME TISSUE AND BONE TRAUMA IN THE HUMAN BODY!!!

    A person could be shot in the shoulder by an M4 5.56×45mm and the rounds tumble would cause enough Hydrostatic Tissue Damage that it would most likely KILL the person.

    This is unlike an AK-47 which although has a heavier round at 7.62×39mm it travels nowhere near the same High Velocity as the M-16 or M4's 5.56 x45mm round and if a person was shot by the AK-47 firing the 7.62×39mm round in an area of the body not near any main artery....such a person has a very high probability of survival.

    NOT so if the same erson would have been shot with the M-16 or M4 using the lighter but higher velocity and higher spin rate 5.56 x 45 mm round.

    So....I was shot 3 times in the chest by a SOB who I ENDED about 1 minute after he shot me...as this was suposed to be a MEET AND GREET and because I had at this point in my early carrier a 100% Success rate and because I had NEVER lost a Man and I had NEVER went after a Target or Rescue Target and did not get them out....well because of this MY EGO WAS HUGE and it still is....but for those of you who were once in the Military and REMEMBER.....I am not even Military.....but for those who remember the adranalin RUSH and the ENDORPHINS PUMPING INTO YOUR SYSTEM AS YOUR WHOLE BODY IS SCREAMING...."LET'S GET IT ON!!!"......well you KNOW who you are and you KNOW what I am talking about!!!

    My Team was and still IS the BEST even if Beta will now become Alha as long as he win's the contest and he will.....and when that SOB who was holding his AK-47 with one hand and it was his LEFT HAND as I studied him and KNEW him to be RIGHT HANDED......THAT ALONE SHOULD HAVE SENT OFF ENOUGH BELLS AND WHISTLES AND ALARMS to make me at least DUCK!!! LOL!!!

    But I didn't...I missed it and he put 3 in my chest and as I was wearing a Highky Advanced Ultra-Light Vest as out there in the heat and having to cover long distances to meet with people that if someone went to the Press about such a thing we would all be IMMEDIATLY DISSAVOWED!!!!

    The vest saved my life but there was some Balistic penetration and I was bleading but good.

    I should have seen it coming...but I didn't and thankfully and if there is a GOD....I thank GOD that my idiocy and mistake and ego did not cause the deaths of any of my men....but I went down hard and on my back and Beta ran up and dove next to me on his stomach to provide cover fire and MY TEAM OPENED UP!!!

    I don't leave ANYTHING TO CHANCE which is why this incident will haunt me till the day I die and I made certain we had several Teams including my own already PRE-POSITIONED in the areas I KNEW this guy would set up a MEET AND GREET and we had arrived several days in advance and had set up Barret M82 .50 Caliber Sniper Rounds with Quadra Pods and Digital Video Scopes and these Barrets have all the toys as they connect to a Tablet and we get Wind Speed, Barometric pressure...etc....and we even take into account the Coriolis effect of the Earth turning on it's access as these Sniper Weapons once hooked up to specialized Computer Software are capable of KILL SHOTS at over 1.5 Miles to 2 Miles.

    My guy's opened up and that SOB NEVER SAW IT COMING!!!

    My guy's cut them to pieces very quickly and in what was the most painful thing I had ever done I turned myself on my right side as I was laying on my back....crawled a bit and used Beta's Leggs to balamce my Carbine and that little SOB who shot me....well his head peaked out from around this large boulder he was hiding behind as he shot me in a manner with a SMILE as he raised the AK-47 with his left hand and just....while still smiling.....POINTED THE RIFLED BARREL AT MY CHEST AND PULLED THE TRIGGER!!!

    Only 3 rounds hit me but as anyone knows who has shot an AK-47...IT KICKS LIKE A MULE....and a person cannot control the AK's recoil and aim after the initial rounds fire....if I can remember it was 9 total rounds that he initially fired at me at POINT BLANK RANGE and he only hit me with 3 as holding the AK with one hand will not allow anyone to be accurate.

    I was angry.....more MAD than I have ever been in my LIFE and my anger CONSUMED ME....and then....out of nowhere....this PEACE just came over my mind and boy.

    I remember saying to myself just before this feeling of peace and control washed over me.....and I actually MOUTHER THE WORDS SILENTLY.....I said...."GET IT TOGETHER A$$#@LE! YOUR ARROGANCE MIGHT HAVE COST YOU YOUR LIFE BUT YOU WILL BE DAMNED IF YOU DON'T CALM DOWN AND LEAD YOUR TEAM AS THEY NEED YOU NOW!!!"

    So....my heart started beating MUCH SLOWER....and I started seeing things and accesssing things in a state of SLOW MOTION.....and I was no longer afraid because I figured I WAS ALREADY DEAD!!!

    The SOB who shot me peeked out from behind that Boulder and I had him locked in and watched his HEAD EXPLODE! And I slee VERY WELL KNOWING THAT SOB IS VERY....VERY....DEAD!!!

    Then Beta had a moment to ask me what my status was and I yelled....FORGET ME! THIS IS A WOUND AND TRACK TACTIC!! As that SOB could have killed me instantly but instead emploed an old Tactic of wounding one or two of the enemy which slows them down and sometimes forces them to travel to nearby Villages where such a team might have developed RELATIONSHIPS AND WEAPONS AND AMMO STORAGE with the people there.....and the game is to wound one or two and retreat and watch from a distance as to WHERE THE TEAM GOES....WHO THEY MEET....WHAT VILLAGERS OR FAMILIES SUPPORT THEM.....WHERE DOES SUCH A TEAM HAVE AMMO AND WEAPONS AND FOOD AND MEDICAL CASCHES?

    The Enemies end game is to follow from an unobserved distance and then when such a slowed down by injuries Team finally makes it to the EXTRACTION POINT.....and the Choppers come in...the Enemy intends to DOWN THOSE CHOPPERS AS WELL!!!

    But NOT to kill everyone as they want even MORE U.S. or SAS Forces to come in after their own as the enemy KNOWS.....WE NEVER LEAVE OUR PEOLE BEHIND!!!

    So the enemy get's gready and tries for a bigger death toll and haul.

    I was the OLD MAN.....it was MY JOB to make sure these Brave Kid's got HOME....so I decided to MAN UP and made a choice.

    We carry a number of different Medicines and Pain Killers as some Pain Killers will put you out like a light and in this case...not an option.....then we have Pain Killers that completely take away the pain and are laced with a STIMULANT but you can't use these for any wounds where Blood Loss is an issue as the faster the stimulant makes your heart pump...the faster and more BLOOD you lose....faster than you can relace it with a bag of O Neg.

    We have ARTERY GLUE.....we have everything EXCEPT a Drug and Pain Killer that will allow you to function rationally while taking away EXTREME PAIN and such pain by itself can KILL YOU as it will place a person in shock when the pain becomes intollerable and the erson can just die of Shockvia Cardiac Arrest.

    So....I chose to take a HALF DOSE OF SYNTH-MORPH.....which has a light stimulant laced within it but is too strong to take a whole dose of if I was going to remain cognizant of what was going on and believe me you.....THEY INTENDED TO GET US....OUR CHOPPERS THAT CAME TO EXTRACT US....AND THE CHOPPERS THAT WOULD COME TO GET THEM!!!

    We were 12 hours away from extraction and because I was shot it took 16 hours of the worse pain imaginable.

    I DID MY JOB.....I back tracked and led them away from our extraction point and in one case where normally I would send my Team along the side of a dry river bed bank....I took a chance and we RAN OUR A$$E$ OFF right across wide open desert plain with mountains on both sides which ordinarily would mean we would be running in the KILL BOX....but....BUT I KNEW......for some reason....that they would be set up all along this winding dry river bed bank and we later foundout after watching the Satellite Imagery that we were quietly...no one was aloowed to talk or even step hard.....in some spots we were quietly running just 10 to 15 Meters away from the River Banks Edge as they set up upon the dry river bed and their Commmander told them...and we found this out later as well from U.S. Satellite NSA Listening Data.......their Commander ordered his men NOT TO PEAK THEIR HEADS UP OVER THE EDGE OF THE FLAT SANDY DESERT PLAIN which was about 10 to 20 Meters in some spots deep as the Desert Plain dropped off to a Tiny Version of a Sandy Grand Canyon Errosion Construct.

    Their Commander figured because the sand, dirt and rock was so erroded and loose anyone who tried to climb the faily difficult to climb and not slide back down 10 to 20 meter erroded river bank....would tip us off and after my Team ENDED a faily large number of this group the first time around when they shot me....they were a LOT more careful now.

    But it was a HUGE calculated risk on my part and luckily for us...it worked.

    About 8 hours in I started hallucinating and Beta saw I was having trouble and tried to get me to at least take another half dose but I said NO....as I knew this was not over and even Beta was MUCH younger than I am and if I was to get all of us home I could not take anymore drugs.

    Because I am a member and Trainer in the U.S. Military's Psy-Op's and I exist upon another level than just pumping in Loud Music to get a Panamanian Dictator out of the Churches building....I started to remind myself the hallucinations were not real and just the effect of loss of blood, dehydration and the Synth-Morph uon my body and I got calm again and develed this iron mental attitude.

    Now I do NOT state that some Supernatural Force was helping me nor not did it enter my mind even ONCE that some GOD was going to watch over me and protect me as that is a concept for CHILDREN and the MOMENT YOU GIVE UP YOUR WILL TO A GOD AND THE MOMENT YOU ACTUALLY SAY....I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OF MY ACTIONS OR SITUATION AND BECAUSE NONE OF THIS IS MY FAULT AND BECAUSE I AM JUST A MAN AND I MUST ADMIT TO GOD THAT I AM NOT CAPABLE OF DEALING WITH THIS AND THEN HUMBLY GIVE UP MY WILL TO SOME LORD AND SAVIOR.


    Let me tell you something...the MOMENT any Human Being does that......THEY ARE DEAD!!!! DEAD!!!! DEAD!!!

    NO ONE is going to help you with anything other than YOURSELF and your FRIENDS and in this case my friends were my TEAM!!!!

    I got it together again and made the right calls and guided us out to the extraction point where 2 Medics injected me with 2 doses of Synth-Morph....and I DIED!!! LOL!!!

    It was like sleeping without dreaming.

    They brought me back and I am here to tell this tale.

    I spent all this time and effort telling my story because I want people to KNOW.....if you are the type of person who is waiting for Jesus or some GOD to help you or save you.....you might as well save yourself some time and put a Bullet in your Brain....oh...and take the handgun if possible and place it under your chin and aim it into the bottom of your brain because if you place the gun against the side of your head the bullet could exit your ear and not kill you and leave you crippled or worse.

    And don't put the gun barrel in your mouth because the same thing could happen or you could just blow a hole out the back of your neck and be an invalid your whole life!

    I will TELL YOU what HELPED ME.......what Helped Me was my own HUMAN SPIRIT and I personally believe that the Human Brain when activated becomes MORE THAN THE SUM OF IT'S PARTS.

    Understanding a great deal about the Many Worlds and Multiversal Theory Models of QUANTUM MECHANICS....I believe....and do so for a very good mathematically based REASON......that there are INFINITE IN NUMBER DIVERGENT UNIVERSAL STATES....which means there are Infinite Versions of all of us!!!!

    I think that our Brains are caable ia the transfer and sharing of Quarks that are blinking in and out of our Universal Existence but NEVER exist within a Hadron such as the Protons and Neutrons in the Atomic Nucleuses of all the Atoms that make up our BRAINS........wellll.....

    These Quarks are exchanging position and numerical existence within these Hardons that make up the Atoms in my Brain and the Atoms in another version of me in another Divergent Universal State and exist and exchange and randomly change or trasfer between all the versions of Each of Us....and that CONNECTION.....is what GAVE ME THE WILL TO KEE ON GOING AND URGED ME ON NOT TO DIE!!!!

    There is actually agreat deal of scientific and mathematical data to back this up.

    Perhaps GOD.....is simply EVERYTHING....Like a Multiversal Gaia Concept.

    Hey...I don't know for certain but I do know a few things.....It si GOOD to be alive!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    The Tanakh is the much older Hebrew accounts and religion as the Tanakh describes how Moses CROSSED...not parted...but CROSSED the Yam Suph....or Sea of Reeds or Reed Sea....and the Tanakh say's this 23 TIMES!!!

    The Torah used the Tanakh as a temlate in the Torahs creation by man.

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    I don't see anything in QM that would lead me to any conclusion or Theory that our Universe or in reality MULTIVERSE is an ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCT?

    Where and HOW did you come up with that? I am truly interested in knowing.

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    http://randommusingsbykevin.blogspot.com/2013/03/reality-isnt-what-you-think-you-live-in.html

    If it matters, I wrote that, it's not some random link I found. To summarize it in one sentence, in the event you're not interested in an entire whitepaper, reality behaves as if it's calculated, not actualized.
     
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    You. Love. Sadness. In short science continues to validate God. The soul. God is beyond Webster's dictionary.
     
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    Well...not to be a pain but Reality behaves in very possible variation thus calculation and actualization of Reality are irrelevant.

    We know a few things now and although we know less about Quantum Mechanics by FAR than we know....we have been able to create and use some MODELS such as The Many Worlds Theory and the more comprehensive Multiversal Theory and these MODELS have allowed us to develop ACTUAL PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS!!!

    Such aps are Cell Phones and 100 and 1000 Quibit Quantum Computers.

    I have earned and Advanced Degree from a world renown Massachusetts based Higher Learning Institute specific to Particle Physics and I was for some time an Assistant Professor at this Institute.

    I am very but since I live in Western Mass. when I get a chance I go back to help create and develop MODELS specific to Multiversal Theory.

    Many Worlds and Multiversal Theories covers all understandable issues of Quantum Mechanics that just a short while ago we were CLUELESS about.

    And besides...NOTHING say's something is REAL more so than a PRACTICAL APPLICATION.

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    you cannot defame nor blame that which does not exist. So, why utter the words?
     
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    a separate unit, unusual or distinctive manner or behavior. It is when our science and math breaks down, and things no longer make scientific sense. Just like they can not understand the bottom of a Black Hole they will never scientifically understand a Creator.
     
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    OK....your Math and Science leaves a bit to be desired.

    Let me explain this.

    We exist in an at MINIMUM 10-D Universal reality which itself is but a part of a Multiversal System.

    Every specific state of Dimensionality that exists as a part of our Universal Space-Time Geometry shows itself as a NATURAL LAW.

    1-D.....as a part of our Universal Sace-Time Dimensionality shows itself as GRAVITY...as Gravity is an Expression of One Dimensionality.

    Now as SINGULARITY occurs when a Supermassive Red Giant uses u all it's Hydrogen when it Fuses all it's Hydrogen into Helium.

    At this point this Supermassive Red Giant which no longer has enough Hydrogen to fuse does not have the ability to exist in such an expansive manner as there no longer is any Thermonuclear Explosive Force propelling outward.

    At this point the Supermassive Red Giant starts to contract and what hapens is Gravitational effect reaches a Threshold Level where the Space-Time Curvature generated by this stellar matter warps in upon itself and thus BREAKS THROUGH OUR OWN UNIVERSAL SPACE-TIME GEOMETRY AND DIMENSIONALITY.

    It is known as a Black Hole or Singularity where all points of position are the same point of position thus no matter or evergy can exist within the point of Singularity.

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    Show me evidence Love exists.
     
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    Love is a biochemical reaction in the brain, actually pretty similar to obsessive compulsive disorder. Such reactions have been observed countless times.
     
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    HELL! That's easy!!!

    When a person is in love their body gives off a number of specific Chemical Markers and releases Hormones and Endorphins.

    As well Brain Chemistry can be read to show specific levels of Seratonin.

    Here is the breakdown.....

    Neurochemistry[edit]
    Simplified overview of the chemical basis of love.The conventional view in biology is that there are three major drives in love – sex drive, attachment, and partner preference.[8][9] The primary neurochemicals (neurotransmitters, sex hormones, and neuropeptides) that govern these drives are testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, oxytocin, and vasopressin.[8][10]

    Central dopamine pathways mediate partner preference behavior, while vasopressin in the ventral pallidum and oxytocin in the nucleus accumbens and paraventricular hypothalamic nucleus mediate partner preference and attachment behaviors.[8][11] Sex drive is modulated primarily by activity in the mesolimbic dopamine pathway (ventral tegmental area and nucleus accumbens).[8] Trace amines (e.g., phenethylamine and tyramine) play a critical role in regulating dopaminergic activity in the central nervous system, and consequently in these pathways.[12]

    Testosterone and estrogen contribute to these drives by modulating activity within dopamine pathways.[8] Adequate brain levels of testosterone seem important for both human male and female sexual behavior.[13] Norepinephrine and serotonin have a less significant, contributing role through their neuromodulatory effects upon dopamine and oxytocin release in certain pathways.[8]

    The chemicals triggered that are responsible for passionate love and long-term attachment love seem to be more particular to the activities in which both persons participate rather than to the nature of the specific people involved.[9] Individuals who have recently fallen in love show higher levels of cortisol.[14]

    Role of the limbic system[edit]In A General Theory of Love, three professors of psychiatry from UCSF provide an overview of the scientific theories and findings relating to the role of the limbic system in love, attachment and social bonding. They advance the hypothesis that our nervous systems are not self-contained, but rather demonstrably attuned to those around us and those with whom we are most close. This empathy, which they call limbic resonance, is a capacity which we share, along with the anatomical characteristics of the limbic areas of the brain, with all other mammals.[15] Their work builds on previous studies of the importance of physical contact and affection in social and cognitive development, such as the experiments conducted by Harry Harlow on rhesus monkeys, which first established the biological consequences of isolation.

    Brain imaging[edit]Brain scanning techniques such as Functional magnetic resonance imaging have been used to investigate brain regions that seem to be involved in producing the human experience of love.[16]

    In 2000, a study led by Semir Zeki and Andreas Bartels of University College London concluded that at least two areas of the brain become more active when in love. These were foci in the media insula, which the brain associates with instinct, and part of the anterior cingulate cortex, which is associated with feelings of euphoria.[17]

    Ortigue et al. found that an unconscious prime of the name of a romantic partner activated similar brain regions as when subjects were consciously aware of seeing partners' faces.[18] Subliminal priming with either a beloved's name or a favorite hobby activated emotion and motivational brain regions: caudate nucleus, insula, bilateral fusiform regions, parahippocampal gyrus, right angular gyrus, occipital cortex, and cerebellum. However, the love prime evoked more activation in bilateral angular gyri and bilateral fusiform regions than the hobby prime. These regions are associated with integrating abstract representations, and the angular gyrus in particular is involved with abstract representations of the self. The authors also found a correlation (r=0.496, p=0.002) between activation of a region of the angular gyrus with a passionate-love scale measuring subjective feelings of love

    LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_basis_of_love

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    Prayer and other religious experiences can also be observed in the brain.

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