Can the Police Take Your Gun(s) During a State of Emergency?NO!

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  1. GiveUsLibertyin2012

    GiveUsLibertyin2012 New Member

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    No!They cannot!
    Signed by President Bush

    US Law Protects Weapons Carry during Emergencies

    http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php?topic=44911.0;wap2

    Steve Weinert:
    It has been pointed out that it may be illegal to abridge gun possession rights during a declared emergency, if an agency has accepted any Federal Moneys.

    Interestingly the rights of Emcomm Responders to continue to carry firearms during an actual emergency appears to be higher than during a drill, and would appear to be absolute if any Federal Funds have touched the call-up.

    See the `Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006' which was passed the House on July 25, 2006 with a broad bi-partisan margin of 322-99 andthe Senate passed its version 84-16.

    The provisions became law in the form of the Vitter Amendment to the Department Of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2007 as Public Law 109-295.

    Please see specially subparts (3) & (4) which protects the rights of an Emcomm Responder by preserving their firearms rights during an emergency:


    H.R.5441

    Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2007 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)

    `SEC. 706. FIREARMS POLICIES.

    `(a) PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS- No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating pursuant to or under color of Federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may--

    `(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation;

    `(2) require registration of any firearm for which registration is not required by Federal, State, or local law;

    `(3) prohibit possession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting possession of any firearm, in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or local law; or

    `(4) prohibit the carrying of firearms by any person otherwise authorized to carry firearms under Federal, State, or local law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in support of relief from the major disaster or emergency.

    ----

    Many thanks to "A Freeman," a web author noted for extensive 2nd Amendment research for his pointing out the Emcomm aspects of the Vitter Amendment of the Department Of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2007 (H.R. 5441).
     
  2. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    Our rights exist on paper. Gun confiscation, under martial law, has and will happen. If they can make you leave your home, as in mandatory evacuations, they can and will limit other constitutional rights. There is nothing we can do about it.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    People can and do stay in their homes during 'mandatory' evacuations...

    Because one can do something does not necessarily signify that doing so is wise.
     
  4. Jango

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    There are instances of people staying, yes, but there are also times when they aren't given an option.
     
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    Has there ever been an instance where someone was forcibly (against their will) removed from their home?
     
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    all my guns were lost in a boating "accident"... /thread
     
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    Marshal New Member Past Donor

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    The OP is attempting to suggest that in a national disaster if confiscating weapons is BENEFICIAL AND DESIRABLE to the US Police or military, that they won't be able to do it because of what's written on paper. THEY WILL GET AN EXECUTIVE ORDER. THEY WILL DO WHAT SUITS THEM.

    The law in the United States is MALLEABLE and has changed, and changed, and changed. Historic tenates that you believed are sacrosanct hav been NULLIFIED and redrafted, time, and time again! LOOK AT YOUR PATENT SYSTEM. Under the Obama Abomination the US Patent system changed from "first to invent" to a horrific model of "first corporation to steal and file". You will need to look it up, because it was not covered by the US Corporate news media!

    The US is truly a horrid evil place, a scourge on society and civilization, the world's most hated country to be IN, and to be outside of. Its policies against its own people are tragic and deplorable.

    Americans have no rights, and in many ways LESS rights than other places. It is a civilized country with LAWS. The US Government is constantly making law after law after law, and the US law is so complex, the US Police have no idea what the law is, they merely follow their training.

    The police and military figures are NOT lawyers. They are NOT ideologists, and they are NOT individual free thinkers.

    If the US Police or military are trained in some way, they will ACT in that way, regardless of the "law" which they think is true, or believe in, or do not know.

    Case after case after case exists where US Police violate civil rights and violate the law against civilians.

    They can, have, and will confiscate your property, detain you indefinitely, force you to give your money to the rich, and YES deprive you of ammo and of your precious guns. WELCOME TO THE USA MATE. See the €£¥#%^* for what it really is!
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is what a totalitarian government does....

    [video=youtube_share;-taU9d26wT4]http://youtu.be/-taU9d26wT4?t=1m30s[/video]

    There are many more stories of what they did beyond these.
     
  9. Marshal

    Marshal New Member Past Donor

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    Told you so.

    "It's not America as we've known it before. It's changing."

    "They punched me in the face. They treated me like a criminal."

    "They didn't care what our rights were. They denied us."


    The United States Corporate/Pentagon Government is a DISGRACE. Corporations and Pentagon are NOT €£¥#%^* SUPPOSED TO BE THE €£¥#%** GOVERNMENT. The "government" of the United States is supposed to be the US CAPITAL.

    The €£¥#%^* constitution is supposed to mean something.

    Who will represent the people!
     
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    Blackrook Banned

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    If you're running around and looting stores, they might take your gun.

    If you're defending your store, they might not.

    The federal government should not be stepping all over states and localities in this way.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears short of a gun battle with the authorities that have better guns than most civilians, including me and I have decent guns... they will take them. So... the proper answer in an emergency is, "No, I don't have any guns."

    Prior to the emergency, local citizens should be installing laws that specifically state authorities CANNOT seize guns during emergencies. Otherwise, they will simply manufacture there own emergencies.
     
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    Officer: "Do you any guns or weapons?"

    Answer: "Officer, I'm a peace loving hippie. The only weapon I have is love."
     
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    Quality of guns doesn't matter, its quantity.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Can the Police Take Your Gun(s) During a State of Emergency?NO! "

    yep, they can and you will later win in court to get them back... they are not charged with a crime for doing so

    I was one that said anyone abusing the patriot act should get a mandatory 5 year prison sentence, if it's not gonna be abused, no fear in adding such a sentence

    .
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the government. Always have a junker to give to the government when the thugs arrive to seize guns, regardless of the laws.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is not a police official in the land that will risk his butt to remove someone in a 'mandatory' evacuation. They might, however, steal guns
     
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    Nope, volume of fire does.

    You guys have your files for your firing pins?
     
  18. Daggdag

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    The only time the right to bare arms can be suspended is when martial law is declared.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually... nope. I recommend this:

    AR
    [video=youtube;_U6tORrODJE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6tORrODJE&feature=related[/video]

    AK
    [video=youtube;lDG1sKybF98]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDG1sKybF98[/video]

    100% legal... but you can file them down after the meltdown the NeoCons and Liberals have prepared for us all.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell that to the people of California. They are not allowed Concealed or Open Carry by Law at this time.

    Tell that to the people who were hit with Hurricane Katrina and had their weapons seized.

    Tell that to the people of Chicago and Washington D.C. who were told they could not have handguns in their own homes which Barack Obama 100% supported until the Supreme Court said otherwise... well I guess you are right on this one... until the next "emergency".
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So then lets be really clear here.What happenned in Katrina in some New Orleans
    parishes where citizens were forced to hand over their firearms or like the one video
    showing an older lady who had a forearm refusing to leave and hand it over was
    punched in the face and near knocked unconscious.
    Firearms WERE confiscated during the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is 100% correct. The question is... Who ordered it.
     
  23. Dr. Righteous

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    Don't pay your taxes, and then try to resist arrest when the police come for you. See what happens.
     
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    If you are defending your store they will take it because they can get to you. If you are looting you will be on the run and hide the gunzez.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not clear if a corrupt FEMA or National Guard.I think it was rogue Cops
    from Mayor Nagin's Police dept.The same ones caught Looting and then
    fled the city.
     

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