Can we sonoluminescence to create nuclear fusion?

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  1. Fallen

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    Sonoluminescence work by collapsing a small bubble in a liquid using sound waves. The when collapsed, the bubble reaches temperatures as hot as the surface of the sun


    My question is, if we made a bubble big enough(like the size of a small car) in the right liquid, and collapse it using incredibly powerful sound waves, can we create a fusion reactor with it?

    The cooling issue, wich plagues most fusion reactors won't be real issue since the whole thing is in a liquid.

    What do you guys think?
     
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    This sounds to me as if perhaps Energy from Quantum Vacuum is being tapped into somehow??????


     
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    No.

    And the problem with a fusion reactor is not anything like cooling, it is that at the kind of gravity-mass needed to create it. We can create it with the assistance of a fission explosion, or for nanoseconds in a lab. But no attempt in a lab has come anywhere close to "breaking even" because the amounts of energy needed are vast, and the amount recovered miniscule. And at earth gravity, no matter what it simply is not sustainable. Period. The longest such fusion reaction that humans have ever made is under 100 nanoseconds, and that is in a large fusion explosion.

    We simply have no way to sustain such a reaction. It is not like fission, where it happens all the time, and once we have refined the fissile material we only need to get enough of it together and it will start to react with zero input. A fusion reaction is actually nothing like that, and it takes a vast amount of energy to just start it. And outside of movies and science-fiction, we have no way to actually sustain the reaction past a few nanoseconds.

    I generally believe that it will likely never be possible, at least on our planet. The laws of thermodynamics and physics largely prohibit it.
     
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    What if the liquid catches fire? Water will become gas and separate at high temperature. Your water could burn? If so, you would have two explosions, the initial heat expansion and the secondary H2 and O.
     
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    Sonoluminescence Reactor Theory
    My theory involves designing a spherical reactor chamber filled with heavy water (D₂O) to enhance energy efficiency and nuclear interactions. The key innovation is using an array of acoustic transducers to generate a stable, large-scale sonoluminescent bubble and collapse it in a controlled, uniform manner.

    Core Components & Function
    1. Spherical Chamber:
      • The reactor is a sealed spherical chamber filled with heavy water.
      • This shape is chosen to ensure uniform wave interactions and precise control of the collapsing bubble.
    2. Acoustic Transducer Array:
      • Multiple sound wave emitters (piezoelectric transducers) are arranged around the chamber.
      • These emit precisely tuned frequencies to resonate within the heavy water.
      • The goal is to create a single, stable bubble at the center of the chamber, approximately car-sized.
    3. Bubble Formation & Stability:
      • Using standing wave interference, the transducers maintain a massive, spherical void within the liquid.
      • The frequency and pressure amplitude are controlled to suspend the bubble without premature collapse.
      • The bubble is filled with either deuterium gas or a vacuum to optimize the reaction conditions.
    4. Controlled Collapse Mechanism:
      • A synchronized shift in the acoustic frequencies triggers the uniform implosion of the bubble.
      • This collapse mimics the compression dynamics of inertial confinement fusion (ICF), generating an extreme rise in temperature and pressure.
      • Theoretically, temperatures could reach millions of Kelvin, possibly triggering fusion reactions if deuterium or tritium is used. This is hot enough for self sustained reaction
    5. Energy Extraction & Sustainability:
      • If nuclear fusion occurs, the released energy could be harvested via heat exchangers surrounding the chamber.
      • If fusion does not occur, the reactor still produces extreme heat and light, which could be captured as an energy source.
      • A feedback loop adjusts the acoustic inputs, maintaining a continuous cycle of bubble formation and collapse.
    The main issue will be precision of the timing of acustic tranducers. Which can be fixed with AI
     
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    There's too much water. Water would boil. Surrounding water will cool it. If the bubble that would be collapsed is the size of a car, the speherical reactor that will be filled with water would be the size of a large house. Too much water in it. Water will be constantly pumped into it to replace the water that boils off. Water that's boils off can be captured and used to drive steam powered turbines.
     
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    In other words, a lot of technobabble and buzzwords that mean nothing.
     

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