Cantor: Obama’s jobs bill ‘dead’ on arrival on House floor

Not really.

If you are giving a small business a tax credit to hire someone then you have to keep giving them the money or the will fire the new employee eventually.

 

So Dems in the Senate will support the bill after they have gutted it of any features that Republicans can support?

That makes no sense from the standpoint of split-the-difference moderates who want everyone to just get along.

 

Sabotaging Obama would just mean passing his bills.

Obama is campaigning on a bill he knows won't be accepted by either side to create a sock puppet named "Republican Obstructionism". It is all about his career, nothing to do with out of work Americans.

 

You are absolutely correct Buzz. This is a question asked in a recent Poll that the OP used in another thread that he conveniently left out of his OP.

So I ask this to all our conservative friends on PF.......When will the recently elected Tea Party GOP that runs the House listen to "We the People" and work with the President to do the will of the people that elected them into office? It's been over 9 months, and yet they continue to spit in the face of the people that they are supposed to represent. "WE THE PEOPLE" are in favor of raising taxes on the millionaires to help reduce the deficit. Why does the Tea Party GOP care more for the millionaires then the majority of the people that voted them in to represent them?

 

Id assume they are hiring someone because they think it benefits their business and not exclusively for the tax credit.....the idea is to remove some of the short term uncertainty

 

obama wants this bill....republicans cant support any features of anything he wants

the bil could say please vote for republicans and they would have to oppose it

 

You are absolutely correct Mello.

 

Has anyone read the bill? Or are you being partisan as well? Just go along with what the pollies tell you to.
I haven't read it all, working on it, but so far so good. So far looks to me like more of a Republican bill. Cut, cut, cut. Tax breaks to corp's hiring. Tax breaks on earned income for both corp and earner. Tax breaks for hiring Vets, our returning hero's.
The very least they could do is take a look at it and decide if there are things they do and don't like about the bill. They won't even do that because most things they would object to (as far as I have read) would make those objecting look like the idiots they are. So instead they just refuse to look at it, work with it, and try to make it work. Cause if it worked, if the country benefits, Obama might get a win.
I really do believe the Repub's will object to anything proposed by Obama at the fate of the country just so Obama don't get a "win" in his column. It is really sad state of affairs and things can be done to turn this sad state around but politic's won't let it happen for the sake of trying to make things stay bad till the election.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/64723281/American-Jobs-Act

If the Repub pollies told conservatives to bath with a turd in the tub, they would do it.
Y'all haven't even read the bill but object to it because the Repub pollies told you to.
I see all these call outs from Obama for us to tell congress to "PASS THE BILL". I would not go along with it till I read the bill and seen for myself if I agreed to it. I am not calling out yet but getting close. What's your excuse?
What is failing this country is NOT Obama, it is the Repub's making it fail and trying to blame Obama.

 

Big labor unions run them selves like Corporations with boards of directors, employees, business offices with headquarters, why don't they pay corporation taxes?

 

that sounded just as stupid when Rush asked it.

because they are nonprofit.....how do you pay taxes on the profit you dont make?

 

Democrats were in charge of the White House and controlled ALL of Congress till this past January, what happened till then?

Insanity is described as doing the same thing over and over somehow expecting a different results. Overall unemployment has been over 9% for 2009, 2010 and so far in 2011 after throwing $840 billion dollars at it. You can call Obama's new big spending scheme a "jobs" bill all you want, it's still doing what's been tried and failed. There must be some "miracle" in this one that will somehow work where the last on failed, what is it? I think we'd all like to know.

 

I'll take the same results....at least 2 million jobs?

 

Is that in the bill?
Read the bill then say what you object too. Other than that, in this thread, anything you say cannot be taken serious. It is only taken as a way to jab at the other side.

 

Well, when the Dem leaders of the house and senate put the brakes on a bill, you know it has to be pretty bad. Too bad they didn't do that with ObamaCare...

 

no he heard it on Rush like an hour ago....

 

Uh huh. That is why he is the first president in history to side with a foreign power against one of the states, because he is so opposed to illegal immigration. Uh huh. That is why Arizona was sued under his administration for passing legislation aimed at reducing the influx of illegals invading it and sucking up resources. That is why Obama sided with the president of Mexico against Arizona, because Obama is so tough on immigration.

But keep repeating that Obama is tough on illegal immigration because that may be true in liberal La La Land.

 

after job losses month after month in the Bush Admin it turned around to job gains each month. that is until the Repub's took over the congress and then job losses started back again.
Check the history and you'll see for yourself.

 

So Obama is lying about needing another half a trillion dollars to create jobs?

 

senate put the brakes on because they want some debate, they dont want it to go straight to the floor

but I think revenue bills have to originate in the house anyway

 

Republican plan is to demolish EPA, Department of Education, Department of Energy, SS, Medicaid. At the same time deregulate Wall Street (reverse Dodt-Frank), give more tax breaks to rich and tax the poor. You know - the policies that Bush used for 8 years and which created so many jobs.....

 

What I'm looking at is a one sided chart, it doesn't appear take into account for the need for new jobs a month while only showing the hiring gains. You realize we need 125,000 new jobs a month to account for new people attempting to join the work force. When that is taken into account most of those months are a loss, not a gain. It says so far this year 863,000 created so far this year, which year? Assuming they are talking about 2011: 863,000 - 125,000 X 10 or 1,250,000. 863,000 - 1,250,000 = -387,000 that's a LOSS not a gain.

 

wow so you mean we were REALLY losing a MILLION jobs a month before Bush FINALLY left office?

 

Why dont they just get one of Obama's "Shovel Ready" jobs?

 

Good! Why pass another failed stimulous bill. A total waste of time, as all things O'Bama are.

 

because the stimulus only created 2 million jobs....not 20 million

2 million more than the GOP wanted created btw