Carbon Dioxide is really our friend

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Burt Rutan is well known to me since I have been a pilot since 1980 and know about his accomplishments.

    As a super engineer, he is not easy to fool. Burt took on the study of climate given that to we pilots, weather is of vital importance. We are all trained in weather. We are taught how weather works, why it is as it is and more. Climate is a longer term average of weather.

    Watch Burt take on the Alarmists.

    [video=youtube;jPP7P43wulg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPP7P43wulg[/video]
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand how vital it is to fight over the shooting of the victims in Florida, but when we get back to earth, the truth on climate seems to be almost a daily event.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's get into glacial shortening.

    A favorite topic of the alarmists is due to Carbon Dioxide the glaciers are shortening.

    Not true.
    http://blog.heartland.org/2014/05/glaciers-and-global-warming/

    Watch the Burt Rutan video at about 56 minutes to see the graphs.

    [video=youtube;jPP7P43wulg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPP7P43wulg[/video]
     
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    The link in the OP provides evidence that the sea levels are rising at the rate of 3 mm per year or 30cm per century up to 2009. I cannot see how that justifies the headline in the OP.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818113002750
     
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    Fascinating!

    I did not know that there were no deserts during the time that the
    dinosaurs roamed the earth!

    It is very informative to hear that the earth was green from pole to pole at that time.....
    in spite of the fact that CO2 levels were even higher back then!

    Wow!!!!

    Could this mean that I didn't really have to apologize to Green Party Leader
    Ms. Elizabeth May for what I recently thought were ignorant statements
    written by me back in 2008?????!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...008-campaign-my-apology-ms-elizabeth-may.html
    Ignorance shown in my 2008 campaign, my apology to Ms. Elizabeth May!
     
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    Some studies have found that higher carbon dioxide concentrations in the air can allow plants to grow with less water. Because there is more carbon dioxide, the leaves do not need to open their stoma (tiny pores) as much, which means lower water losses to evaporation.

    http://www.plantsneedco2.org/default.aspx?menuitemid=329
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Burt Rutan also pointed that out in the video.

    I felt I knew most of what he said yet I learned some new things from Burt.
     
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    This anti-carbon stuff is funny to me...

    Life and death is carbon..... We have no life without carbon.
     
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    David Ike really?

    This guy also believes the World leaders are shape shifting aliens....
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The formula for animal life is

    C-H-O-N-P-S

    The elements.

    carbon - hydrogen- oxygen- nitrogen- phosphorus - sulphur

    Nature (GOD) could create life. Man with our brilliance has not.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Burt Rutan, the famous aircraft designer.
     
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    I believe in God and science...

    This "carbon is terrible" crap is funny....I would bet my sack Dark Matter is Carbon based.
     
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    The indispensible element. Yet Democrats would love to tax carbon.
     
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    It looks like David Ike to me...

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    Of course because you could tax it indefinitely and blame people while they get their asses taxed the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of.

    Carbon will never not exist.
     
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    Anyone who has damn brains would know our universe it finite - unless they subscribe to the expanding universe theory.... For now I will keep it simple - we're made of stars - Carbon. We cant "create" anything... All "sources" of what makes a "being" exist....
     
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    It would not be the first time that a brilliant person was wildly incorrect
    Edison insisted that direct current was much superior to ac
     
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    The reason dinosaur fossils are found on Antarctica isn't because the pole was much warmer. It is because Antarctica used to be in a somewhat different place on the globe.

    pangaea.jpg
     
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    Are you saying you have conclusive evidence the universe is not expanding
     
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    That was a good one..... Westinghouse vs. Edison.... People back then must have been easily entertained - an elephant? really?
     
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    I suppose we wouldn't be where we are today without those individuals.... Tesla too.
     
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    I think you are aware that the heavier elements... Including carbon... Were created in ancient stars
    http://www.designanduniverse.com/articles/carbon.php
    And IF dark matter has a carbon component
    That seems to imply that dark matter also derives from early stars
    Is that what you are saying?
     
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    I don't have (*)(*)(*)(*) and neither do those that support the theoretical idea other than a bunch of ideas.... Is the human a "theory" tho??

    What makes me, well - me and what makes you, you?

    The concept of an expanding universe is very interesting to me.

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    I don't have (*)(*)(*)(*) and neither do those that support the theoretical idea other than a bunch of ideas.... Is the human a "theory" tho??

    What makes me, well - me and what makes you, you?

    The concept of an expanding universe is very interesting to me.
     
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    There are many other example
    Issak newton was quite invlved in alchemy and the occult
    Lots of brilliant german scientists were nazi
     
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    Can't say I agree with the transformation of matter.....

    How does one just turn rocks into gold?
     

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