CDC: 150 people enter US everyday from Ebola struck Countries

I'm sure you do. From what I can tell, you hate most everybody... and you assume that anyone in power makes decisions based solely on a self-serving political calculus. I think that assumption clouds your judgment.

 

Wrong. People that work in the US right now that are new immigrants or people coming for work seem to be coming over the fence and not through our air ports.

 

Most of them are not coming directly from West Africa, most are going to Europe first and then the the U.S. Most of those nations with serious Eubola problems don't have direct flights to the U.S.. Did a little checking and found all flights from Liberia to the U.S. go through Belgium and stop in Canada before getting to the U.S. and the cheapest flight was $5,297.

To stop travel from those affected nations would require that their airports be shut down completely. For the U.S. to do that, would require armed attacks by U.S. forces. Are we prepared to do that? Will the rest of the world sit back and do nothing if we do?

 

Get ready NYC
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Are you prepared to stop all travel to the U.S. by tourists and business traveler's as well? Are you going to stop all travel too and from the U.S. for any reason? That's what you will have to do to prevent any possibility of infectious disease being brought in from outside the U.S.

 

Most of the actual mistakes were made by the staff at the hospital in Texas, which is not one of the 4 that is actually prepared to deal with diseases like Eubola. The staff at that Dallas hospital had had no training in dealing with such diseases. During the first several days, the staff wasn't even properly covered by hazmat suits. That all came out in the hearing that were held yesterday.

 

The reason why particular faclities are superior at dealing with infectuous diseases such as Ebola was explained very clearly by Rachel Maddow last night. Even the waste material associated with the infected person gets autoclaved (sterilized) before it is disposed of and yet in Dallas, the nurses reported that medical waste and soiled refuse from the patient was left piling up. That is unheard of even under normal circumstances.

If you consider these very strict and necessary protocols, it is qutie clear why the Dallas hospital has already produced two infected staff members. There is no room for error or breaking protocol if Ebola is to be properly contained.

 

The nurses have said the protocols they were given keep changing. So who's fault is it? The hospitals or the nurses or cdc?

 

I think politics as a career choice self selects scumbags and rent seekers. I can offer very few counter examples.

 

PUHLEEEZE...

The CDC has taken the media point. They own this. THEY won't control travel. THEY own the next case.

 

You only need to stop flights out of the affected West African nations, and you can do that by bombing the runways. No need to destroy the entire airport or kill any people, unless they start rebuilding the runways before we're ready. Then we might have to kill some people.

 

IMO..it was up to the hospital administrators to not allow any of ther staff to come in contact with the patient until they were advised of EXACT protocol and they should have requested the EXACT protocol used by the facilities that have cured Ebola patients...even if they requested that info via The CDC. If I were one of the nurses, quite frankly, I would have walked off the job at the very point that I realized I was not being properly prepared. I worked as an oral surgery assistant for a few years and hearing that infected waste and refuse was not being addressed immediatley in Dallas Presbyterian really astounded me. Deviating from sterilization protocol was never an option.

 

What would we do if some nation started bombing our Airports to keep us from flying out of the county?

 

Sorry. the CDC does not have the authority to order hospitals to follow their protocols. They can send teams to monitor and urge compliance but the local hospital can overrule them. You should watch the hearings, they are on c-span. The CDC has a lot less power and authority than the Media and some members of congress seem to think.

 

exactly!

 

Australia proves you wrong. But then again their immigrants don't come in unskilled and uneducated by the millions.

 

there are no direct flights to the USA from Ebola countries.

 

They are top dog in this. They are assuring America 'all is well'. THEY OWN IT. BADLY.

 

yes, it seems the most logical answer

 

They keep giving lame excuses as to why they can't stop flights, but I thought they touted themselves as the party of "Yes We Can". It should be the party of "Yes We Can Lie and We Do."

 

I must say... on the Liberian side of the universe, the airport seems to be doing EVERYTHING it can to minimize risk.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/w...ction=US Open&region=Article&module=Promotron
Now... this isn't going to prevent people who come into contact with ebola from reaching the US, but it does give me some solace that they are taking air traffic seriously... over there.

 

Makes me wonder just what the terrorists might be planning this very moment. They are seeing what's happening here now.....how this has pretty much shut-down one hospital (people now refusing to go there even for doctors' visit).....and how it's spread despite our leaders telling us it was "highly unlikely." The terrorist.....who have no problem finding people to strap bombs to themselves for "jihad" would also have no problem with recruiting people to purposefully expose themselves and then hop on a plane to the U.S. making sure as soon as symptoms started to go into a mall, or church service....or wherever as they expose thousands all at once. Lots of them have American passports and are Americans themselves....so what's to prevent that from happening? I think very little if nothing is preventing it. Terrorists have always been about trying to harm our economy, take us down from within.....and I'm sure they are working on this as we type here. This is what is so scary!

We should do everything in our power to make sure that doesn't happen. Allowing those flights to continue.....is NOT one of them.

 

Are you also prepared to deny citizens of Texas the right to travel outside the boarders of their state? It seem the highest risk is for those who have come into contact with Duncan or the medical personnel who treated him, We will need to also deny people in Ohio from traveling outside their state ( where nurse 2 traveled while coming down with Ebola) and quarantine all of those who came into contact with her and those who may have come into contact with them. Since we cannot be sure that anyone has not had some contact with a person who had contact with a person who has ebola, should we require everyone in the U.S. to lock themselves in their homes for the next 21 days? Because to be sure that we don't have someone out there exposing people with ebola is to require such a thing. Too bad if some die from starvation or lack of medical care for other things like heart attacks, or inability to refill critical prescriptions, etc. we have to be sure that there is no danger of anyone else contracting ebola don't ya know.

 

They are the federal agency assigned the job of dealing with communicable diseases, but they are not top dog, if they do not have the power to go into a state hospital and take over the day to day operation of the hospital. The fact is that the CDC operates in the States pretty much most conservatives want all federal agencies to operate, in a purely advisory capacity, without any real power to compel the states to do anything. If
the hospital just takes the advisories from the CDC and pins them to the staff lounge bulletin board, and fails to supply the CDC recommended safety equipment (which the Texas hospital did) to it's staff, and failed to provide actual training to it's staff, that's somehow the CDC's fault?

 

Does it really make a difference to ebola victims if a terrorist spreads it vs. an ordinary person? If someone is deliberately spreading ebola, how do you think they are going to do it? Put their blood in a spray bottle? Its not airborne so coughing and sneezing aren't going to do it. The nurses that got it did so because they were covered with blood/vomit/etc of victims and didn't disinfect properly. None of Duncan's family got it, despite being in very close contact with him.

One thing we can do to get people not to hate us is to stop invading their lands. That seems a lot easier than going over there to replace a dictator with an even more brutal militant group, doesn't it?