Charge Trump with Treason?

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Charge Trump with Treason?

  1. Yes, charge him with treason.

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  2. Its treason, but espionage. Still illegal.

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  3. No, he did nothing wrong.

    23 vote(s)
    57.5%
  4. Don't charge him, but don't elect him either.

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How did Trump aid or support Russian spies?

    You continue to repeat Hillary Clinton's demand to have the Cold War back.

    Contrary to your Cold War rantings, neither Russia nor Putin are our enemy.
     
  2. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    Richard Nixon was forced to resign for sending burglars to steal DNC records from office files in the Watergate complex. Now Trump is publicly calling for the Russians to hack DNC computer files and sell the data to the media to help him defeat Hillary in the election. What's the difference between Nixon stealing DNC files by burglary or Trump stealing DNC files by hacking? And, when did it become OK for a Presidential candidate to encourage a foreign country to commit espionage against the U.S. as a means to help him win the election? Whether treason or burglary, it's still a crime, and one that already eliminated one sitting President.
     
  3. rkhames

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    There is no proof that Trump urged Russia to hack the DNC server. Heck, there is not even any proof that Russia was even involved. He did however urge then to locate the emails that the FBI claimed that they couldn't.

    If the emails don't exist, as the FBI claims, then there is no crime.

    Only if Trump actually aided them in this venture. You know, like placing the emails on an unsecured server, That way they would be available for any nation or hacker that wants access.

    Isn't it funny that espionage is not treason if it is a Democrat committing the act, but it is if it is a Republican?

    You not very bright, and you are grasping a straws!
     
  4. Il Ðoge

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    I think this story has legs if Hillary tanks enough in the polls, they will try to outright disqualify Trump. There clearly isn't anything they won't stoop to.
     
  5. APACHERAT

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    Nixon had no knowledge of the Watergate burglary until he read about it in the papers. He was in Florida when it happened.

    I'm sure he would have approved but he was out of the loop.

    Nixon was guilty of the cover up that took place after the burglary.

    Comparable to the Benghazi cover up by blaming the terrorist attack on the consulate in Benghazi on a youtube video while knowing it was a planned terrorist attack.

    Republicans are held to a higher standard than Democrats and some Democrats are above the law.
     
  6. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was a trap that Trump laid out and the Hillary campaign stepped in the trap.

    BTW: Krauthammer is a neoconservative, I don't think he's a big Trump fan.
     
  7. ziggyfish

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    Well Hillary is in breach of § 798, and § 793. Should we charge Hillary with Espionage?
     
  8. XploreR

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    You may be right on the details regarding Nixon, but it doesn't change his compliance in Watergate or his ultimate responsibility. Nor does it change the similarity of Trump's actions today regarding the DNC or Russian espionage.

    During the Benghazi event, communications were difficult and undependable, and confusion reigned. I don't know the details, but something like 9 separate investigations spanning several years and costing millions of dollars have all concluded that nothing more could have been done by Hillary to change the outcome. The last report was conducted by Republicans focused on a witch hunt so they would have charged Hillary if they felt they could do so and get by with it. The fact they didn't speaks strongly in Hillary's favor.

    As I recall, when President Reagan placed several platoons of Marines in Beirut back in the early 1980's, and they were subsequently killed by terrorists, no witch hunt was held against Reagan in spite of the fact that he'd been warned such an even could and would likely happen.Over 300 Americans were killed in that attack, so how do you conclude that Democrats get away with more politically or are held to a lower standard than Republicans? The evidence doesn't support your claim.
     
  9. HailVictory

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    I think it's time to LOCK HIM UP!!!!!
     
  10. AlphaOmega

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    She took govt property. Period. Ive sat through 3 decades of training on this. Its stealing.
     
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    Clinton spokesperson admits that Hillary's 30,000 emails contain classified information that pose a risk to national security despite her claiming that they didn't.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this coming from the same group that identifies themseleves as being higher educated...which makes it even more pathetic.
     
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    How do you hack deleted emails ones that even the FBI couldn't even recover being in possession of the hard drive they was on? I remember him quite clear saying find not hack

    Espionage
    The act of securing information of a military or political nature that a competing nation holds secret.
    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Espionage


    so are you telling me those 33,000 so called personal emails that Clinton had deleted had military and or political information on them
    she told us they was about her daughters wedding and yoga
     
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    Trump trolled Clinton and the media and they took the bait
    got them to admit those 33,000 emails weren't personal but if they got into the hands of a foreign government it would cause a national security issue
     
  15. APACHERAT

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    With Benghazi you had civilians with no military experience play general micromanaging the military basically doing nothing. "asking if should the Marines be armed ? U.S. Marines spending four hours in a C-130 on the tarmak being ordered by the State Department in DC to change in and out of their uniforms four times.

    Just about everyone from company grade down who was in theatre said that they were ordered to stand down and that there were numerous options that could have been taken to get the Americans out of Benghazi. These soldiers, airmen, Marines and CIA civilian security contractors never testified before Congress.

    What the final Congressional investigation report did reveal, that the State department was more concerned with protecting Obama's reelection campaign since Obama's reelection platform was that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run. So there was a cover up and they said there was no terrorist attack and for two weeks blamed it on a youtube video.

    A cover up just like what Nixon did.

    Nixon signed off on creating the White House Plumbers who's original mission was to stop the leaking of classified information, but he didn't direct them and was unaware what they were really doing. Howard Hunt seems to have been in charge of the Plumbers (maybe nobody was in charge ? :smile: ) and the Plumbers under G. Gordon Liddy went rough when they became part of the Committee to Re-elect the President.

    But Nixon was doing nothing different than LBJ and JFK had done. Except Nixon was caught in a cover up and Republicans are held to a higher standard and the "Left" started the wheels turning to take down a sitting President and this is when Hillary Rodham enters the scene. Hillary was so corrupt even back then in 1972/73 that she was actually fired from the team that was suppose to take out Nixon. She should have been bared from ever being allowed to practice law in America.

    Re: Reagan:
    Reagan never micromanaged the military. It wasn't Reagan who ordered to billett Marines at that particular building. Reagan didn't micromanage the Marines or wrote the ROE that prevented the Marines from acting fast eneough when the truck bomb approached the building (Marine barracks)

    These are the first three of the ten ROE that allowed the Marine Barracks to be blown up.
    1. When on post, mobile or foot patrol, keep loaded magazine in weapon, bolt closed, weapon on safe, no round in the chamber.
    2. Do not chamber a round unless instructed to do so by a commissioned officer unless you must act in immediate self-defense where deadly force is authorized.
    3. Keep ammo for crew-served weapons readily available but not loaded in the weapon. Weapons will be on safe at all times.

    Terrorist using truck bombs was something new back in 1983, nobody saw it coming.

    But Reagan went on television and took full responsibility not looking for anyone else to blame. That's sign of a good CnC.
     
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    Calm down Ron,I know Rolling Stone is leading front page with this but:
    Trump in no way did anything pertained to in the Logan act.
    He trolled the Clintons and biased media.Comedy gold it is!
    I tend to think this was a calculated move,right down to the timing.
     
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    It's amazing they've spun this crap so far around they must be dizzy. Not one of em can make the least bit of sense since thier party was outed as racist crooks. Pure unadulterated fear is driving them now.
    I often wonder if there is such a thing as higher education in this country anymore. When the ones that claim to have it open a refrigerator they no longer are the brightest bulb in the room. :)
     
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    I don't like Donald Trump, but he did no such thing. He used satire to make a point. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Ridiculous!

    Trump did nothing wrong and is a patriot.

    Clinton should be charged for Benghazi and the emails. She is a threat to the USA.
     
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    The only one I can think of who merits a treason charge is Obama.
    When you release 5 enemies of the state in exchange for a deserter/traitor. I qualify that as treason.
    I believe it's "Aiding and abetting the enemy"
     
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    He said IF they had the emails they should turn them over to the FBI.....NONE of what you posted is anywhere near the truth. More Democrat propaganda....:ignore:
     
  22. reallybigjohnson

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    The title is wrong. Hillary's spokesman just admitted in public that Hillary did in fact have classified information in the 30,000 deleted emails. Deleting classified information is a felony.
     
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    It seems to me that American politics has become very spiteful in recent years.

    It used to be that one respected one's political opponents even though one may have disagreed with their policies.

    Now it seems that politics consists of destroying one's opponent no matter what the damage to the country.
     
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    Then the Clintons should go to jail for their pay to play selling out our uranium. Putin even thanked Billy personally.
     
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    he is backpeddling now and saying he was only joking
     

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