Chemical Gas Attack Appears Staged-fake

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    I think that Kerry's words were that Assad had destroyed all of his "declared chemical weapons". I guess so as to insulate Kerry and Obama from derision on the off chance that Assad kept some secretly off the books and hidden.
     
  2. Balancer

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    1. I do not believe the United States. They deceived too many times.

    2. Even if I do not believe in it 100% - please, give a link to such data. This, too, can affect my opinion.

    In any case, then it is surprising why the UN does not have this data.
     
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    Yup. Assad's a Saint, Trump's a monster, and all those children committed suicide to make Assad look bad.
     
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    If you don't believe the U.S. then what's the point of discussing the subject with you? In any case you are apparently open to some education...here.

    http://www.salon.com/2017/04/07/did...kremlins-involvement-in-assads-deadly-strike/

    "On Thursday, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson declared that “either Russia has been complicit or Russia has been simply incompetent” in its endeavor to eliminate chemical weapons in Syria. Pentagon officials echoed that sentiment on Friday, telling the AP that Russia has failed to control the Syrian government’s use of chemical weapons.

    Pentagon officials are also exploring the possibility that Russian warplanes struck a Syrian hospital treating victims of Tuesday’s chemical attack in an attempt to destroy evidence linking Assad to the chemical strike that left over 70 dead. The attack on the hospital came hours after Assad’s forces launched the deadly strike against the rebel stronghold of Idlib province."

    But, don't tell me.....Because a U.S. Sec. of State made the comment....You don't believe it.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your hat is intact - and belly boated with all the spoon fed koolaid.
     
  6. Balancer

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    You have errors in formal logic. If A is not a criminal, it does not automatically make him a saint.
     
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    If it was sarin, all of the rescuers are dead as they had bare skin exposed. Sarin does not evaporate readily and those rescuers would be exposed and as dead as the children
     
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    It is you that needs the education if you believe the mainstream media and US Gov't in relation to Syria.

    It has been one big false narrative for years. "moderate rebel" lie for example and the fact that Obama was arming Islamist Jihadists like Al Qaeda/Al Nusra/ Islamic Front and ISIS.

    This led to the death of over half a million people so far, the refugee crisis and the rise of the modern incarnation of ISIS.

    If the State Department, Pentagon (and various other Gov't orgs) and mainstream media did not lie so much then perhaps we could take what they say seriously.

    I do not know that Assad did not use Chem weapons but, this could also be a false flag.
     
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    That's what Syria gets for cheating on the Kerry Agreement.
     
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    Because I do not have binary thinking, as many in this forum. The fact that I do not trust the unconfirmed State Department statements does not mean that I do not believe in convincing documents or at least not make a corresponding shift in my views. I'm always open to new information, even if I do not like it.

    Just the very case that I mentioned. Empty, not confirmed words. The United States has already deceived many such words. And then either they kept silent about it or said "it was a mistake". No, I do not believe the unconfirmed shock of the air. If you believe only the words of politicians, then you are a very naive person. A politician is almost always a liar.
     
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    Queue the theme to The X-Files
     
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    Basically the entire world besides Russia, Syria and Iran have condemned Assad's actions.

    This is like the one thing that the world likes Trump for, looks like Putin got outmaneuvered here. No one is going to believe articles like these ones which more and more are being found to be part of a world wide Russia cyber unit. They really need to learn to be a little less obvious in order to make their propaganda work
     
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    I haven't read all the posts, so maybe this has been said.

    Watch the 3 minute video of the woman in blue speaking Russian with subtitles. Expand the video to full screen, and you will see the logo on the wall behind her. It looks like this is simply Russian propaganda!
     
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    Who are you asking?
     
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    Yup. No one is safe around them. And pushing Assad back by rocketing his airfield only helps those monsters. Someone didn't want the US and Russia to ally against the terrorists. Looks like they succeeded. I am perplexed that showing President Trump a couple of photos would drive common sense right out of his window.
     
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    Actually, this is official representative of Russian Foreign Ministry, speaking in her office.
    But thanks, Sherlock. :roflol:

     
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    It does not matter :) If a person repeats a lie for a very long time, and no one will demand confirmation, very soon both he and others will believe in this lie. I see a lot of this kind of faith on this forum. This is normal for primates. But I do not want people to forget that much of what they take as a fact is in fact not a fact. At best, this is just an unproven assumption, at worst - a direct lie.
     
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    Exactly, Inspecter Clouseau.
     
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    You can not imagine how the USSR worshiped America in the 1980s and 1990s. The Iron Curtain played against the USSR. In the conditions of the information deficit, whole generations grew up, who worshiped the West. After the collapse of the USSR, the world had a chance to become truly friendly. But in the 1990's everything rolled off the slope. For me personally, the first big disappointment in American politics (it was politics, I never confuse the notion of the country and the state, ordinary people and politicians) was an attack on Yugoslavia. And then, from year to year, everything became worse.

    What is interesting is that we are still in Russia, still, absorb the Western culture, and not isolated. We watch Western films, listen to Western music, read Western writers, use Western software and Western computer games. We soak for so long that generations have grown up, which stereotype image of Russian is perceived in the way the West does - vodka, a hat with ear flaps, collapsing space stations ... :) And still something does not work out in the relationship :D
     
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    How does that prove it was staged?

    Here is a known fact: The chemical weapons were delivered by fixed wing aircraft.....who else could have done it besides Assad?
     
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    Who established that fact?
     
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    As soon as you hear "everyone knows this", prepare for a dose of deception :)

    In what cases did chemical weapons strike airplanes? Who testified about this? In what sources is this mentioned?

    ...

    You know that the standard non-artful way of aviation use of chemical weapons is the use of containers. Cassettes with containers are separated from the aircraft, fall to the ground, burst under the influence of a blowout charge and spray around the contents. The container remains practically on the ground. It's just a crushed tin.Contains residues of poisonous substances. On such remnants it is very easy to determine that it was precisely an air attack.

    Can you answer, please, did such containers find chemical weapons in Syria? Who conducted their examination? Where are the findings of the UN commissions and statements?
     
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    LOL! Are you claiming Assad has never used chemical weapons?

    I really do not care if he did this time. I have little pity for such a ruthless dictator. You, for some reason, feel a need to defend him.
     
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    I guess you do not know about the barrel bombs also....geez, no wonder there are those who are confused.
     
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    Why you don't answer?
    Who established the fact the chemical weapons were delivered by fixed wing aircraft?
     

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