Chemical Gas Attack Appears Staged-fake

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  1. ChristopherABrown

    ChristopherABrown Well-Known Member

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    This makes a lot more sense in our bizarre world of endless BS from all types of media sources.

    Consider 9/11, complete disruption of the Middle East, mass exodus of refugees, ISIS actually a Mossad/CIA Venture. Now this.

    We can thank this Swedish organization for a thorough analysis of video and using info from their sources much closer to the tragic events than we are, for this realistic perspective.

    https://southfront.org/swedish-medi...ets-murdered-kids-for-fake-gas-attack-videos/
     
  2. Just_a_Citizen

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    I'll check the link later, but to open, I've seen staged Israeli attacks on Palistians as convincing as what I saw on broadcasts here from the gas attack.

    I really am not much of a follower of conspiracy type, false flag type, or straight up fraudulent type claims so close to an action though, so not too sure how objective I'll be regarding the link.
     
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    Sorry. I lost my tin foil hat.
     
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    When you want action, bring on pix and videos of (supposedly) injured and dying kids. It always works - usually by initiating the wrong kind of 'we must think of the children' knee-jerk action? :roll:
     
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    Let's see who tries to avoid an international investigation by dispensing with protocol and becoming aggressive. Oh, wait................
     
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    When diplomacy fails, resort to overwhelming force.
     
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    Yes, and I've also seen videos showing Hitler was a creation of the CIA.

    Those Americans.
     
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    How about a dose of reality if you can stand it, and a look at those we support without their white helmets. Not that it matters we're all heading for a world war anyway. Enjoy it!

     
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    I don't know who YOU are- but I can see which you wannabe.
     
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    The Israelis would think nothing of conspiring to gas Syrians if it would result in the US fighting in Syria on their behalf. That's speculation.
    They assassinate their opposition frequently in other people's countries. That's fact.
    A UN investigation into the gassing is required- before any professionals remove any evidence.
     
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    Why do you present the ridiculous ? It looks for all the world like an attempt to obscure the probable.

    Again- A UN investigation into the gassing is required- before any professionals remove any evidence.
     
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    Honestly ... When do these conspiracy - idiots actually die out or at least once finally turn on the strange organ in the head with the name brain?
    Actually, they are just a pimple on the *peep* of the society and freedom of speech guarantees their BS blabbering, but sometimes a pimple can be vexatious!
     
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    That... ...is a serious accusation.. ...from what I know, White Helmets are volunteer rescue teams. It.. May be so, that among them are unprofessionals..? I...

    People. Attention, please. May somebody help me to understand a part of one of the videos on victims of the gas attack in Syria? I put it under spoiler, it.. Bit too hard to watch.

    The medic (?) there makes an injection with a long needle, in the chest of a child - and then moves it there. May you - anyone there - please, help me analyse that piece of video material. Is that normal, is this a proper medical procedure? Is it incorrect treatment? May it be, that it was a mistake made by unprofessional? Or that needle of that size was used due to lack of supply? May there be some other explanation?

    I am sincerely asking you to help me there, it... For non-professional it looks incorrect, the needle, being injected that deep, should likely be piercing the lung, I think. I know that adult can easiy survive such piercing, that heart is located rather deep in the body, but... The moment, when needle is moved... Again, I am not a professional, but from what I heard, saw, and know the injector and needle must never be moved - to not injure the patient and not risk breaking the needle. Is it different with the infants?
     
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    Hitler wasn't since the CIA didn't exist at the time, but Miloshevik was. The MSM demonized him no end while supporting the Islamist terrorists the KLA. Clinton then bombed Belgrade 78 days under false pretenses of genocide killing thousands of civilians. (Our usual calling card...Mosul comes to mind).

    Miloshevik was rotting in jail, and when it came time to testify and prove his innocence, he was poisoned. (
    Assassinations- another one of our calling cards) Now 20 years later, when the ideologues and self designated 'gods' of the world, felt it was okay to reveal the truth since he has long been forgotten, the Hague declared him innocent of all crimes.

    The country that I once loved, has now turned into the greatest evil the world has ever seen. I fear for it... and for the world.

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    The rediculous and I say SICK is you saying that thus was faked. There are sickos who claim that 9 11 was faked. That Sandy Hook was faked and that 20 sets of parents did not lose their first graders. Have you lost a child? I do not think that you have so stop and think about it. Stop and think about the pain those parents of those kids in Syria are going through before you post something as stupi as what you did. Those of us who have lost a child find it sicker than sick To hear someone claim that thedeath of someons child was faked when it is so obvious that it is painfully real. Stop and think before you post again.
     
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    I do believe in conspiracies and false flag attacks. I don't say that everything is, or that every conspiracy theory even makes sense, but it is a fact that Machiavelli's The Prince is a book owned by every politician (as is Sun Tzu's Art of War).

    If I were a government, I would certainly use these very handy tools of the political arsenal. Even moreso today, where the geist makes it so easy to turn those who might see what you are doing as ridicule tinfoil hat types, despite evidences pointing to the contrary. I'd just hire a good PR type - et voila. We the People are so easily fooled.

    Are you not surprised with the celerity with which events unfold? We are not even sure Assad deliberatly mounted a chem attack (which, for whatever reason, is seen as much more inhumane than a good 'ole bang bomb) and yet we all have this nice unanimity we had when we went to war in Iraq ("We", in this case refering to you, Yanks, and to a lesser measure the rest of the occident).

    Those who were old and sentient enough at the time will remember it well.

    For my part, I reserve myself the right to a healthy dose of scepticism.
     
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    Those were quite blunt, shopworn arguments. You new to this?
     
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    You could go to work for Alex Jones and fit right in.
    This is the biggest load of pure bullcrap I've seen since the Kennedy assassination hoopla.
     
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    Fake ? I didn't say it was fake. I said it needed UN investigation to determine who did it.
    If you cared who did it you'd agree with me- instead of posting crocodile tears as you beat your war drum in the wrong direction.

    You owe me an apology. Let's see what you're made of.
     
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    That has all been rendered moot, by virtue of Trump's bombing.
     
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    I do not owe you any apology because I know who did it. Don't talk to me about crocodile tears you have not lost a child so you know nothing about that. The hit came from the air in a downward direction that means from an aircraft. The dispersal of the toxic agent was therefore from above and if it was a rebel cache it would have laterally and much less of it would have survived the blast and the heat that an explosion. There are only three entities who have the capacity and the motivation to attack Syrian rebels those are Assad, Russians, Iranians. In my view it does not matter which of those three evil entities committed this atrocity since all three are criminal and all three have committed vile dastardly acts against humanity over the years. Life's knowledge and life experience renders me capable of knowing who is the guilty party.

    No apology is coming from me and I do not have to proove to anyone what I am made of I live what I am made of.
     
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    On the contrary- you unloaded on me claiming that I said the gassing attack was ' fake '. I didn't do that- so you owe me an apology.
    It doesn't a matter a toss if you believe you ' know who did it '.
     
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    So you say you know who did it, then turn right around and say it could be Assad, Russia, or Iran. I guess there's no reason to rebut your statement, since you did it yourself
     
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    There was nothing in my statement to rebut. It was obvious that one or more of that Troika of Terrorist nations was the perpetrator of that unthinkable attack.
     
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    Trump's bombing:



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    Rep. Scott Rigell (R-Va.) 2013 letter signed by more than 100 lawmakers.

    Dear Mr. President,

    We strongly urge you to consult and receive authorization from Congress before ordering the use of U.S. military force in Syria. Your responsibility to do so is prescribed in the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution of 1973.

    While the Founders wisely gave the Office of the President the authority to act in emergencies, they foresaw the need to ensure public debate – and the active engagement of Congress – prior to committing U.S. military assets. Engaging our military in Syria when no direct threat to the United States exists and without prior congressional authorization would violate the separation of powers that is clearly delineated in the Constitution.

    Mr. President, in the case of military operations in Libya you stated that authorization from Congress was not required because our military was not engaged in “hostilities.” In addition, an April 1, 2011, memorandum to you from your Office of Legal Counsel concluded:

    “…President Obama could rely on his constitutional power to safeguard the national interest by directing the anticipated military operations in Libya—which were limited in their nature, scope, and duration—without prior congressional authorization.”

    We view the precedent this opinion sets, where “national interest” is enough to engage in hostilities without congressional authorization, as unconstitutional. If the use of 221 Tomahawk cruise missiles, 704 Joint Direct Attack Munitions, and 42 Predator Hellfire missiles expended in Libya does not constitute “hostilities,” what does?

    If you deem that military action in Syria is necessary, Congress can reconvene at your request. We stand ready to come back into session, consider the facts before us, and share the burden of decisions made regarding U.S. involvement in the quickly escalating Syrian conflict.

    Sincerely,









    Where's the outrage from the right wingers???
     
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