Chicago ID card would be valid voter identification

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...emanuel-municipal-id-vote-20180216-story.html

“The Illinois Election Code requires the Board of Elections to accept current, valid photo identification cards and other local governmental documentation that includes an individual’s name and address, as proof of identity and residency,” Valencia’s letter reads in part. “The CityKey fits both of these requirements.”

Valencia’s letter notes that voters currently aren’t required to prove they are American citizens under state law. They simply must attest to their citizenship.

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This is why democrats need to protect dreamers, illegal aliens, and other minority groups. It isn't because they feel that they are discriminated against or in need of protection from the majority, its because they want their votes.

It is despicable that democrats have put politics and party ahead of the constitution for their own personal gain.

I suppose, with the tides turning, and more independents and conservatives lashing out against fringe progressive ideals, this is what democrats have to do to try to stay relevant.

 

Dey be sorry when dey elect...

... a hispexican mayor...

... dat no speak English.

 

It's pretty bad when even rank and file liberals can't come up with one logical reason against requiring proof of citizenship to vote. They immediately pull the racist card, because they think that it's their get out of the debate card and an auto-win move. It is abundantly obvious that Dems want as many illegals as possible and they want to make it as easy as possible for illegals to vote so that they can stay in power. The proof of this is that Dems wanted to tighten up the border, and better enforce our immigration laws just as recent as the Clinton admin. Hillary was also a big supporter of protecting the border and enforcing immigration laws, up until her party decided that they could increase their power by allowing them in.

 

Worry not - teh Illegal Aliens will not vote illegally for tis is illegal for Illegal Aliens to illegally vote!

“We want to underscore that if you are undocumented, it is illegal to vote even with any of the documents accepted as proof of identity or residency under the Illinois Election Code — everything from a debit card, utility bill or union card,” LeFurgy said in an email"

 

Moving the herds of "Brown" human voter cattle to market aka the polls.

Democrats: The most prolific example of institutionalized racism that has ever existed and quite possibly will ever exist.

The basis is a simple ID card that can be used to identify ones self for basic services.

Its not a bad idea, every citizen should have one.

But where it goes wildly off track is when Democrats mix in illegals and voting.

By its own admission the program wont track background information of ID holders which logically demands that it should not be a valid form of identification for voting.

Of course Democrats know full well that illegals will use it to vote, as well as cash in on the freebies, but all they have to do is deny the obvious and then cry racist when anyone presses the point.

This is how it starts.

This is how illegal voting in Congressional and Presidential elections starts, and you can bet your ass that abolishing the electoral college follows close behind.

We need a national ID program more than ever.

Its time to do away with the thousands of difference state and city level ID cards and transition once and for all to a modernized aggregated system.

 

Even if 12 million illegals can't vote, just having them here gives Democrats a big advantage. House members are appointed for so many of the population. For instance, if there are 100,000 people in one district, one Congressman must be appointed to represent them, citizens or not. I think it's even less than 100,000. But guess how many Congressmen the Democrats get for 12 million illegals here?

 

Just you wait till then reapportionment begins after the 2020 census.

People laugh at me when I speak of the real illegal immigrant population as being double or more what we're told it is.

We'll see what the count is in an era where illegals no longer fear deportation and where liberals desperately need their votes no more than ever.

 

Chicago is a prime example of why liberalism fails. Strictest gun control that only makes for more murder and a safe haven for criminals. What a shithole

 

Chicago is run by bolshevik progressive traitors, period.

 

I don't laugh. The people have been using the 11 million number for decades. We know their is more than that. One way I would do it is allow those here to stay, but not give them citizenship or the right to vote than anything but local elections. Make them register and anyone caught not registering would be deported. You'll soon find out how many illegals are in this country.

 

That is an incredibly deceptive title of the thread. The CityKey in no way requires less identification to acquire than other forms of government issued ID, nor does it allow people to vote who wouldn't be otherwise.

 

As fast as Trump deports...the Dems import new illegals to vote for them.

 

How would a voter prove citizenship? A valid passport seems like the only suitable documentation but lots of people won’t have one.

This is also another example of the flaw in focussing excessively on the point of voting rather than the point of registration. If you implement the policies and procedures to keep voter registration valid and up to date, it wouldn’t matter what kind of ID people used when they voted. If they weren’t legitimate voters in that location (for any reason), they wouldn’t be on the list at all.

 

As pointed out, it’s asinine to think illegals are just going to flash an ID at the polls and they will get to vote. You’ve got to be REGISTERED in your district prior to voting no matter how much ID you carry.

 

I don't give a rat's ass about what Chicago does locally. But if illegal voting tips Illinois electoral votes to a Democrat in a presidential election I'll be pissed. Someone will need to be tarred and feathered.

What don't libs understand about voting being limited to American citizens?

 

And registration just requires a driver's license or ID card, which illegals get all the time.

 

Every single Socialist society that has ever existed used National ID cards to keep track of it's citizens. Every. Single. One.

And yet, here you are, advocating for one. Makes me question your true agenda...

 

The UN is stunned by our lack of voter ID. BTW, our country already has tons of ID to keep track of their citizens from birth certs to drivers licenses.

U.N. Poll Watchers Baffled U.S. Doesn't Require I.D. to Vote
Those of us who thought U.N election observers would be completely worthless or unhelpful today, were wrong. U.N. observers are expressing their surprise at how much trust Americans put into the election system without verification and cannot believe Voter I.D. isn't a national requirement to vote.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...-baffled-us-doesnt-require-id-to-vote-n695241

 

Yea...

...and almost a hundred other nations that aren't socialist use them too so that was a poor comparison.

Plus our federal government already has complete and total identification of us via the IRS, SSA and of course the three letter spy agencies.

And our State and city governments obviously do too.

Streamlining the process is logical for so many reasons ranging from the cost of administering identification programs, to their bureaucratic efficiencies, to the effectiveness of the things they validate.

Do you have any other reasons why we shouldn't have a national ID program?

 

So why can't they use the ID card to register? The article said that the Board of Election Commissioners will accept the card.

 

I agree, voter registration should be valid and up to date but a voter ID should be provided or annotated on a state driver's license which requires proof of citizenship. There are too many states that now auto register people to vote at the DMV when you get a license, and there are more and more states allowing illegals to obtain drivers licenses. I can't purchase beer without a valid ID, why should anyone be allowed to vote without one?

 

Since when do conservatives give a ***** what the UN says?

And at least 100 other nations have shown that strict gun control lessens mass murder, and yet, when confronted with this fact, conservatives always shout that what works there wouldn't work here. Why the dichotomy when it comes to this?
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I don't. Actually, I'd go even further, and have all of a persons medical records loaded on to a chip imbedded in the card.

 

If you can take the time to register to vote and if you can take the time to cast your vote, then you can take the time to have your picture taken once every 8 years.

The only reason to oppose voter ID laws is to make it easier to commit fraud, and we all know which side opposes voter ID laws.

 

I've no issue with voter ID to confirm that you're the individual on the voter register but I don't see the point in requiring that ID to directly confirm you're a citizen (and otherwise permitted to vote, since some reasons won't appear on any ID) when that can be established much more effectively and reliably at the point of registration. That also better covers things like absentee voting.

I mean, you mention yourself a problem with the DMV automatically registering people to vote but suggest voter ID as the solution rather than the obvious "don't automatically register people".

 

You don't need an ID to register.