Chicago sues Glock

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the people who are doing that are Biden's buddies in China and criminals in the USA. Glock has nothing to do with this.
     
  2. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    From the lawsuit:

    "Glocks affixed with auto sears ('Modified Glocks') can fire fully automatically: up to 1,200 rounds per minute, a rate as fast or faster than many fully automatic firearms used by the U.S. military.... Glock’s willful decision to not take any meaningful action to address this problem in its sales to civilians—despite its awareness—is immoral, unethical, oppressive, unscrupulous, and unreasonable.... Criminals armed with Modified Glocks are emboldened because of their military-grade firepower, and they kill and injure more people, increasing the terror felt by ordinary Chicagoans. According to one ATF agent, the use of guns equipped with auto sears is 'one of the scariest things' the agency has dealt with in decades. The former acting Special Agent in Charge of the ATF’s Chicago Field Division explained last year that part of the increased danger caused by modified machine guns is that shooters cannot handle the recoil of so many rounds coming out of the gun so quickly, resulting in bullets spraying everywhere.... Glock continues to sell handguns that are easily modifiable because the demand from the criminal market for Glocks, which can be made into a fully automatic machine gun easily in combination with an auto sear, boosts Glock’s sales and profits. Glock has known for years that criminals, including those who seek to be armed and to inflict violence with outlawed machine guns, are a considerable source of demand and therefore revenue and profit for Glock."
    https://blockclubchicago.org/2024/0...-that-turn-pistols-into-illegal-machine-guns/
     
  3. Turtledude

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    utter bullshit propaganda. as usual, lefties don't blame the people causing the problem.

    I need a good laugh-explain why the full auto modified Glock is more "lethal"

    are you aware that before Glock could be sold in the USA it had to be approved by the ATF. the rest of the allegations are utter nonsense
     
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    https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/chicago-sues-glock-over-auto-sears/
    The City of Chicago is taking the next step in blaming everyone else for their problems by suing Glock. ..
    Chicago can indeed sue Glock under Illinois state law. This is the first lawsuit brought under the so-called “Firearms Industry Responsibility Act,” which anti-gun Governor J.B. Pritzker gleefully signed into law last year. The law allows municipalities to sue gun manufacturers when criminals misuse their products to create mayhem. You know, like suing Ford or Chevy when a drunk driver kills someone while driving one of their cars.

    “But wait a minute,” you may exclaim, “isn’t there a federal law preventing suits like that?” Yes, there is. It’s called the Protection of Legal Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA). It prohibits suits just like this. When Joe Biden and his political and ideological allies claim the gun industry is “immune” to legal action, that’s what they’re crying about. They’re wrong, of course. Firearms manufacturers are liable for shoddy workmanship or product defects that result in injury, death, or property damage. Just like every other manufacturer of any other product. But Biden and his crew know that. They’re just betting that you don’t know it.



    This suit is typical of leftist thought
     
  5. Reality

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    1) That's not what they're doing.
    2) They don't sell switches, that would be the Chinese and I notice Chicago ain't suing the Chinese companies selling the actual illegal auto sears
    3) the NFA is unconstitutional, see NYSRPA v BRUEN
     
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    Maybe they should sue Lil Wayne in this lawsuit?

    After all, he's been a proud spokesman of Glock for some time and I'd wager he has more influence on the people adding switches to their glocks than glock does.
    "Ya my watch sick, ya my glock sick"
     
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    “Glock With A Switch"


    It seems to be common knowledge that Glocks are easily modified to be full auto.
     
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    the criminal act is not by GLOCK. anyone can easily modify a gas can into a rather nasty explosive device too. BFD. the bans on full autos is unconstitutional btw.

    you still haven't told me why a fully auto Glock 17 is more deadly than a semi auto one

    when I see these sort of posts I can tell that the goal is banning guns, not public safety
     
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    What's next? Are we all going to sue Toyota because their trucks are easily converted into technicals?
     
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    Firearms are simple machines. Making them more complicated will make them less reliable. Cops want reliable firearms. Thats why they so often use glocks. Glocks are arguably the most reliable self loading pistol. Sounds like Chicago is on track to alienating reliable pistol manufacturers from doing business them. Thats fine I guess. I just wonder how Chicago LE will react to switching back to revolvers after all the other pistol manufacturers decide Chicago a liability.

    We're talking about 100+ year old technology here. Maybe they can find some new eletronic gun that works well most of the time... and then they can sue them too every time their E-gun battery runs out or gets wet or the electrical contacts tarnish and a cops gun doesnt work in an emergency.

    Any gun that fires semi-auto can also fire full auto with just a little modification. People that dont know this also dont know much about firearms.
     
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    gun banners don't care. they don't understand guns, they don't understand gun uses. what they understand is that gun owners often vote against the socialist goals that gun banners want. that is what motivates their desire to ban guns.
     
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    This is what is called a frivolous suit soaked in political bias. Chicago has long been a bastion for the Dems.
    Not long after I came to the US, Due to a series of events prompted by my father’s affiliation with the Dems due to his working in Chicago local government during the waning Daley dominance in the 70’s I became the youngest precinct captain Chicago at 18 ostensibly to work on attracting young voters. In reality I was a titled go-for. It was my first introduction to politics (Chicago style). More than once I was asked to deliver envelopes, stuffed with cash.I became disillusioned with the corruption I saw a quit after a year; it wasn’t as I had naively envisioned America. In Chicago politics is a war, GOP vs Dems and power the main objective. it poisoned me to politics for a long time after.
    My brother- in-law was one of the top homicide investigators for Years. He just retired last year, tired of the political meddling in his investigations.Everything in Chicago politics is still tainted by the war and by the Dems seeking power.
    I could write a book; the levels of gun violence and be directly traced to Dem policies that have allowed te 6 major gangs in the 70’s to over 60 gang that hold many neighborhoods in fear where Dem policies hamper LE and Chicago’s notorious gun policies prevent residents from even being secure in their homes.You see the same sort of thin in Dem controlled cities like LA.
    Chicago, lost the ability to deny issuing gun permits in the Courts, so what better thing to do than that to bring a Civil suit (burden of proof less than in a criminal court with jurors picked from a eligible pool of citizens picked from a highly Dem controlled city. Think envelopes won’t get delivered?
    Chicago is part of a broader national strategy to identify and harass GOP voters. if the suit works where the jury can be stacked, it can be tried in other Dem controlled cities.
    The Dems have failed using the SCOTUS to get support their anti gun, anti GOP efforts so they have begun trying to use lower courts where juries are filled from Dem controlled cities were they have a better chance ro get the outcomes they want; it’s their strategy with Trump and now with gun.
     
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    Generally, sure. I think this in particular is more of a 'we dont know what to do about crime, so we'll sue glock to make it look like we're trying' kinda thing.
     
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    Maybe they should sue makers of high capacity spoons for being fat.
     
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    almost every car made can go at least 20 MPH over the legal speed limit in almost every state
     
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    Jeeps are weapons of war.
     
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    Its funny, but Rommel said the Jeep was the single most infuriating thing he ever had to fight. A jeep with a recoilless rifle would pop up out of nowhere and blow up one of his tanks.Then they shoot it and it would flip over. Then the next thing he knew, 3 guys had run out, flipped it back upright and blew up another one of his tanks with it. And this just kept happening...
     
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    you load up a car with a few extra gas cans and you have one hell of a bomb. so maybe someone should sue GENERAL MOTORS since it is so easy to turn a car into a WMD
     
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    You need no modification to turn an SUV into a weapon capable of running down a parade. See Darryl Brooks trial.
     
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    yep, Chicago and the anti gun groups behind these suits should be hit with a billion dollar punitive damage award and the politicians who pushed the suits should be individually liable
     
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    Its not Glocks fault politicians gave their city to criminals. Gun laws only helped these killers and now these politicians want to sue?
     
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    No. If they want to put a stop to that, Illinois should pass a law that says that if you are in possession of an illegally modified fully automatic Glock, or the conversion parts, you go to prison for 20 years, no parole, no early release. Try that first.
     
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    that would mean cracking down on a major set of constituents and running the risk of being called "racist" because the vast majority of people doing that are black
     
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    In the woke 2020s, people want solutions which don't involve increasing the incarceration rate of racial minorities. This lawsuit aims to take machine guns out of crime and is one such solution.
     
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    why not enforce the law that makes possession of an unregistered machine gun a serious felony
    why not enforce the law that makes the selling of machine guns a serious felony
    why not attack the sources of those switches

    the left seems hard pressed to want to actually punish people who break existing laws and in order to pretend they are doing something about crime-they push bullshit lawsuits as a substitute.
     
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