China and Russia intensify cooperation

In the years ahead....I suspect RuZzian will be relegated to a village dialect in most areas of the former RF....

 

Wishful thinking. Sooner the US will go under water than this happen.

 

As of 2023, the country with the highest debt is the United States, and not China. A dollar is just a toilet paper that is backed by nothing.

 

Why wishful thinking....viskochem?

RuZzians aren't reproducing....Chinos are infiltrating.....many RuZzians leaving....RF will go by way of USSR, and Raseeska movah will end up a "pzdek" dialect.

America won't " go underwater" ...like you say.

You need us....you know it.

 

A dollar is "toilet paper"....why does everyone use it then.....as international currency ...visko?

Most RuZzians eyes would bulge if they say greenback on a table...including you.

 

Soon noone use dollars. In 19th century French francs have been popular, at the beginning of 20th century Deutsche Mark was in favor, then dollar came. Soon everyone will switch to yuan. Be ready zoomy!

 

I won't lose sleep....$US is like American Express....don't leave home without it.

 

You need to lay off the Z state propaganda, vis. You're embarrassing yourself repeating that crap here.

 

What is crap Durandal? This information comes from here: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-by-national-debt

 

By which you demonstrate that you do not understand the significance of the national debt, and the nominal amount of US national debt does not in any way support your goofy claim that "A dollar is just a toilet paper that is backed by nothing."

 

Maybe you then explain the significance of the national debt and what the dollar is backed by?

 

Maybe, but Russia is already winning on the battlefield. Or maybe Ukraine took some of their land back? Cuz last I looked they lost a military base and were conscripting the disabled ...neither of which is common for armys that are winning.

 

I wasn't talking about national debt. China has other, more significant issues:

... In recent weeks, China watchers have taken notice of a previously little-publicized assessment by a former adviser to China’s central bank. Li Daokui has estimated that local Chinese authorities had by 2020 run up a much bigger tally of debt than previously realized, at some 90 trillion yuan ($12.6 trillion).

Most of this debt came from building infrastructure, much of which is unlikely to generate revenues sufficient to pay off the obligations. With China’s trend growth rate notably lower now than it was, it leaves a burden over the long haul. National authorities have the wherewithal to resolve the problem, but it would take a major rethink in economic policy. Without a strategic shift, it leaves China heading for Japan-style stagnation.

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The research also determined that the fiscal wherewithal of local authorities to service their debt had deteriorated by 2020. The conclusion: “It’s clear that local governments are compelled to incur new debts to repay existing ones, which is unsustainable.” Given how growth momentum has deteriorated in recent years, the debt-servicing ability is likely “even lower now,” according to Li.​

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/news...na-s-debt-mountain-is-even-bigger-than-feared

As for the dollar, it's still strong and in demand, and all you have to counter with is vague and false assertions.

What's up with you, vis? Did you have to get a job at a troll farm after you were forced to move home?

 

armies

I don't know where you're looking, but it's probably publishing Z propaganda.

 

You know, its funny, I already gave you these links in another thread. Seems you KNOW its not 'Russian propaganda'. But then why would you keep saying it?

Which of these do you suggest is Russian Propaganda?

Ukraine war: Putin avoids further mobilisation while Kyiv suffers manpower shortage (theconversation.com)

Ukraine chases draft dodgers amid war manpower shortage - The Washington Post

Frontline Ukrainian infantry units report acute shortage of soldiers - The Washington Post

"Kyiv is resorting to increasingly draconian measures to get sufficient numbers to the front. It recently extended mobilisation to previously exempt groups such as the partially disabled."

 

I can't read two of them due to a pay wall. Regarding the claims in the one I can read (theconversation.com), they're not entirely accurate and seem to be the author's opinion. Example:

This summer arguably saw a strategic defeat for Ukraine and Nato in their attempt to end the war by military means. Nato countries supplied and trained Ukraine as best they could. And, thus far at least, it has yielded next to nothing.​

NATO countries have not done the best they could. Too often, (R) and certain equivalent European politicians have gummed up the works in that area quite a lot. ruZZia obviously faces no such obstacles in churning out recruits and equipment. It's actually tragic how our vastly superior capabilities are kept back and Ukraine is basically deliberately starved of the kind of systems it needs to advance.

 

"The conversation"....

And this is supposed to be accurate?

 

Or, more likely, just fuel the war so the Russians and NATO exhaust their supply of weapons and China can walk right into Taiwan... and maybe more. I'm not sure they want anyone to win. Just letting Russia and the west duke it out until they are exhausted is fine with China.

 

This is also quite possible.

 

China is completely contained by our Navy. There is little need for our Navy in Ukraine. The Chinese economy is in a shambles at the moment.

Ukraine has been bleeding Russia for quite some time now. Half a million of Russia's youth will have been killed before years end. Currently Russia is losing about 1000 per day. The only thing keeping their economy afloat is the high oil and LNG prices. Russia is funding the war with Petroleum. They are increasing their dependence on oil trade with China. The war in Ukraine has transitioned into a war of attrition. Russia has an advantage here because Russia isn't a democracy and Putin is willing and able to sustain far more casualties. Russia's population is much larger.

In the US, infighting between our Congress and the White House have resulted in an impasse over the Border crisis. As a result, Congress has held back appropriations of key military armaments to Ukraine. Production continues, delivery has been stalled. If the impasse is resolved armaments will flow into Ukraine at an increased rate. A likely scenario is the direct intervention of NATO (including the US) in Ukraine. Pressure is slowly being ratcheted up on the Biden administration and it he doesn't do something soon he will not serve another term. This may mean intervention sooner rather than later.

If Trump gets elected in November, he will crush the Russian's economically, opening up the output of our oil reserves, dropping the price of oil down near 20$/barrel. This would mean Russia will be forced to sell their oil at a loss. Note Russia would indeed have to continue to sell at a loss or lose nearly their entire production capability. This would mean budget shortfalls of 70% or more. Essentially, this would mean continued funding for the war in Ukraine would starve the Russian people. Should NATO get involved directly, the Russian position would be completely untenable.

 

I agree with much of this post... but a few comments...

- China is not contained by our NAVY. Our Navy doesn't have the capacity to do that, and much of what China does goes overland and the Navy has no impact on that at all.
- Navy Approaching 'Weak' Rating in New U.S. Military Strength Survey - USNI News
- US military in decline, threats from China ‘formidable,’ report says (defensenews.com)

- Production of military equipment does NOT "continue". That's not how defense acquisition works. Your grocery gets a steady flow of bananas, but the military does not get a steady flow of Apache helicopters or M1 tanks. Production of war materials depends on a series of independent contracts. For example, if the Pentagon, in conjunction with the White House, says we should be ready to fight a two front war, that becomes strategic guidance. The amount of equipment and the associated costa get included in a budget request. Then the annual budget cycle takes over. That may take a year. If the money is authorized, then a contract competition occurs. This takes multiple months. Some systems (like Stinger) require components which are "Long Lead Items", which adds more months to the process. If a contract is awarded, then a NEW manufacturer has to tool up and start a whole new assembly line. Even an existing manufacturer must start up a "cold" assembly line. Parts must be ordered from subcontractors. It's a long process.
Sometimes different systems compete for the same pot of money. Back in my day I remember assisting a "College of Colonels" where priorities were set between this weapon system, that aircraft, this other communications system, etc. More time is required.

My point is that equipment is provided in fits and starts based on individual contracts, not in a "steady flow".

I also have a feeling that there is a Master Plan involved here. China is happy to watch Russia and NATO deplete each other over Ukraine. As a minimum, they welcome these players to bleed themselves dry so they will have little left to defend Taiwan. But in a more devastating scenario which includes Russian first use of nukes, China will be even happier to watch the destruction of the west, waiting patiently to pick up (and rule) the surviving pieces.

 

"I also have the feeling that a Master Plan is involved here"?

I've mentioned that in an earlier posting. That "Master Plan" is quite possibly the further dismemberment of the Russian Federation.....much like the former USSR.

 

Dismemberment of RF? Wet yellow dreams.

 

I too get the feeling there are subversive players pulling strings behind the scenes with the intent to subvert the Republic. You are also correct in your assessment of a master plan to further dismember the Russian Federation. This isn't an American intent, it is a Chinese intent. Strategic assessments indicate China's most viable option towards hegemony is actually expansion into central Asia and the Russian territory. Once China gets in, Russia won't be able to get them out. China's best options in Taiwan don't involve invasion at all. China has been infiltrating many Chinese nationals onto the island. They also have a network in place sympathetic to Chinese interests. China's most likely move on Taiwan won't be direct military intervention, it will come in the form of an attempted overthrow of the Taiwanese government.

Of course China would like to occupy Taiwan, but this is not without consequences and would ultimately result in failure. China thinks more long term (always has). Trust me, if China were to occupy Taiwan (they would succeed in time at great cost) it would not result in some kind of cataclysmic victory. First, the difficulty in taking Taiwan would be more problematic for China than many believe. Of course this would depend on the resolve of the Taiwanese people. Furthermore, we have the assets in place to cut off ALL maritime Chinese commerce almost immediately. While this would have some economic cost to the US and other nations in the short term, the long term effects would be a boon for the West. But for China it would be devastating. Devastating in ways which China and it's partners cannot overcome. 15.8% of the Chinese population is undernourished. Primarily those in the agricultural areas of China. China only has 10% of the arable land in Asia and has 15% of the world's population. Virtually all of the arable land is already producing its maximum output. Domestic food production in China amounts to 34.8% of their current consumption. While much of this is due to the expanding tastes of China's diet, without imports, estimates are (at best) China could feed only 66%. They are importing 70% of their edible oils. Petroleum imports are over 80% of their current consumption. Fossil fuels (coal) likewise fall well short of their consumption and may exceed their oil imports. China has attempted to fill the gap with trade agreements from India, and Southeast Asian countries like Vietnam, etc. Yet these still fall well short of their minimum needs. They have also resorted to arable land purchases in the United States, controlling 60% of our pork industry alone. None of which would be available to them should they invade Taiwan. In the end, such an attempt would very likely prove to be a failure according to the computer simulations. Russia could step up its oil exports to help fill some of the gap (and they already are) but shortfalls would remain. There would be little to no prospects for the importation of oil from Iran.

As for the prospect of Russia's use of nukes, you would be talking tactical nukes not ICBM's. Russia's ICBM platforms are in disrepair. Recently 2 test events both resulted in failure. Not that even a 100% success rate would make much difference (which is why they haven't been maintained). SDI defense shields in North American would make any attempt at an ICBM attack suicidal. Russia would be destroyed long before the first nuke got through. It is also questionable whether such an order from Putin would be carried out. Tactical nukes (smaller medium range) would be an option. Prevailing winds would prove difficult and would be problematic should Russia make this mistake. It is a threat and a possibility though. Russia has about 2500 tactical nukes in the theater. NATO between 1000-1500. It is possible Putin might make this mistake, but it would be a mistake on his part. For the most part, it is just Putin's blustering in an attempt to get the NATO to further appease him, giving in to his demands for Ukraine and allowing him to take his next step towards Russian hegemony. Should all out war with NATO come to fruition, Putin's life expectancy would be measured in weeks not months.

 

I do recall reading the words of ...V.I. Lenin, vaguely....."an indestructible Union of Socialist Republics"?

Whatever happened to that " indestructible Union" visko?....any thoughts?