Chinese, Russian spies listening to Trump’s phone conversations

Have you got a credible source for any of that?

 

The New York Times is, and will continue to remain the nation's newspaper of record for the forseeable future.

I am quite certain that the next time the Times prints a headline that the reactionary right likes, they will rush to quote it.

It does not always get the story right, but always admits it when they don't. One of the more spectactular times when they got it wrong was when they printed all the articles that Judith Miller wrote about Iraqi WMDs, when she was getting all of her information right out of Ahmed Chalabi and Richard Pearle's mouths, not one bit of which was true. Funny, right wingers never mention that one, and Miller got a gig on Fox afterwards. Presumably they didn't care about her damaged credibility.

Right wing media never does this. In fact, they frequently megaphone false stories by repeating stories that someone else made up (Fox does this every day, and so do the AM right wing talkers), No one in right wing media fact checks anything or ever walks back a story to see who the man behind the curtain is. There is a reason for that. Most of right wing media is nonsense manufactured by the man behind the curtain to entertain and distract the mob while they do as they please. And most of the time, they get the right wing mob to cheer for them while they're doing it!

 

This is not confirmation of your claim. All this says is that she used a large number of mobile devices. I would expect her security to do precisely that as a basic security measure.

 

The NYT is only credible when it reports against its obvious bias. That rarely happens.

It does remain the "newspaper of record" for the Fake News MSM.

 

It's obvious that you don't read. And you certainly don't read the New York Times.

I have been a regular reader of both the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal for forty years. Both have nearly polar opposite editorial pages. And both report a lot of straight news, and generally do it straight.

The reason I continue to do so is because when the history of our times has been written, it looks most like the way those two papers and a few others did at the time the events happened. In other words, they generally get it right.

Opinions are another matter. And people will always have different ones.

 

You clearly do not actually read my posts. If you did you would beg me to stop reading the NYT.

“The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”

The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.

But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.

At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.”
THE NEW YORK TIMES, Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal, By JO BECKER and MIKE McINTIREAPRIL 23, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

Fake News! Right?

"Start with democratic socialism. The Democratic Socialists of America, of which Ocasio-Cortez is a member, believe in economies defined by state-owned enterprises and worker-owned cooperatives. Versions of this have been tried to varying degrees before: Israel in its first decades; post-independence India; Sweden in the 1960s and ’70s.

It always led to crisis: hyperinflation for Israel in 1980s; an I.M.F. bailout for India in 1991; a banking meltdown for Sweden in 1992. It’s usually a recipe for corruption: State-owned enterprises such as Pemex in Mexico or Eskom in South Africa are local bywords for graft and mismanagement. It frequently leads to dictatorship. Hugo Chávez was also a democratic socialist.

People used to know this stuff. That someone like Ocasio-Cortez apparently doesn’t is a fresh reminder that, in politics as in life, the most obvious lessons are the ones you can least afford to stop teaching."
THE NEW YORK TIMES, Democratic Socialism Is Dem Doom, By Bret Stephens, July 6, 2018.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/06/opinion/democratic-socialism-alexandria-ocasio-cortez.html

More Fake News! Right?

You need to expand your reading list beyond the WSJ and the NYT.

 

'Course you are ... otherwise you's have to address the part that made you look foolish ... the investigation.

 

OK for Hillary but not Trump?

 

Right ... it isn't as if I expected anything else at all from you. I knew I'd already wasted my time providing the link in the 1st place hadn't I?

 

No, but you were very careful how you chose. You deliberatly chose and early report on the uranium deal, and omitted further reporting.

The second one is an editorial, not a news piece. You don't seem to know the difference (most right wingers dont, which is understandable since right wing media rarely makes a distinction between the two.

You aren't going to prove that you're a reader just because you do some Googling.

Oh, and your response makes it obvious that you do consider the Times the newspaper of record.

BTW, I don't expect the Times to tell me everything I want to hear. You seem to find that noteworthy.

 

They listen to his speeches too and consider this possibility. Trump would obviously know cell phones are not secure so he may be feeding Russia disinformation.

 

I don't know if you remember, but Hillary Clinton endured an exhaustive, deep and long investigation of her Blackberry which had it's own SERVER in her basement. The FBI found NO evidence that it had been compromised in any way. Without a doubt, a private server is way and above the total lack of security of Trump's iPhone that broadcasts over an unsecured NETWORK that anyone within range of a cell tower can intercept. The two can be compared to a front door of a home having nothing but a flimsy chain lock to keep intruders out to a steel barred prison cell.

 

or your hypocrisy.

 

what was the right call it? lock him up, lock him up.

 

Now Tom, you, and anyone familiar with my posts, know I use MSM or Left Wing sources to support my positions here.
For instance:

“So, here it is. For the typical 99%’r American, the camel’s back has broken by the last straw sourced in Washington so many times the camel doesn’t even have what you’d refer to as a spin anymore.

“The Clinton’s need to have their assets seized, Giustra needs to arrested, and at a minimum racketeering charges need to pursued against the whole damn bunch of ‘em….BEFORE IT GETS REPEATED WITH, SAY, THE TPP.
Hillary needs to face charges of Espionage for her e-mail. And if guilty, like with Edward Snowden, all options for disposition of her miserable guilty ass should be on the table including the death penalty.” http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/t...agreements-get-access-taxpayer-money-and-enri

Hence Trump.

 

By Trump Haters like Comey, Ohr, Strozk and McCabe?

 

You know that it is just the one phone that is unprotected, right?

 

It's quite clear Hillary couldn't identify classified information vs. unclassified information. If what Guccifer is saying is true, a 14 year old could have hacked her server. No wonder Bryan Pagliano pled the fifth and doesn't want to talk about it.

You got nuthin.

 

What a stupid post, pls note the bolded.

 

Surreal ... since you NO doubt defended crooked Hillary for actually misusing her personal blackberry. Are you still pretending she, and Abedin weren't both using personal phones?

 

fyi, if you read my posts you would know, and wouldnt have to keep taking your foot out of your mouth.

 

From what I've read, he has two iPhones that are unsecured. One is said to be only capable of making calls, while the other only includes the Twitter application as well as a handful of news sites.

Both of the iPhones are issued by the White House Information Technology and the White House Communications Agency. According to the report, aides to the president encourage him to swap out his Twitter-dedicated iPhone every 30 days, but Trump purportedly denies that request as he sees it as “too inconvenient.” Trump has reportedly gone as long as five months without having his Twitter iPhone checked by security experts.

 

how about lock him up, lock him up they same way he said during Clinton issue.

 

That's ridiculous, of course she knew what was classified and what wasn't. She's been a politician most of her life and was Secretary of State. If anyone knows what the meaning of 'classified' is, it would be her.

It appears that you prefer taking the statements of a known Russian spy agent over a U.S. citizen. No wonder this country is in such trouble. Propaganda works.

 

Is Hillary's basement an approved proper place of custody for classified material? Was her server approved by the DOD for classified material storage? Provide link please.