Christians must become non-denominational then, there will be ecumenism do you agree you don't have to listen to Luther and the Pope
In "spirit" yes. When I first became a Christian I attended a Church that had left a denomination. It was largely Catholic and Pentecostal (if you can imagine that). The Pastor I do believe was a "man of God". They proudly claimed they were a Non-Denominational Church. That spirit of pride slowly started creeping in. At first we had a non-descript worship team. Then someone decided they wanted a choir. After a year, the choir decided they wanted choir robes. I remember the Pastor before the sermon mentioning a problem he was having. It had come to his attention that the choir would come, perform, and then go have coffee. He was ashamed this had developed and he announce he would be disbanding the choir. We don't need performers, we need worshippers. He declared," if we are not careful, we will become a Non-Denominational/Denomination." My point is this.....the spirit of pride lurks within us all. There are good Christians within almost every denomination. Let us recognize the "Body of Christ" and leave it at that. Sure, Denominations that are extremely rigid and compromising are failing everywhere. Let them fail. We don't need divisiveness due to pride.
This is nonsense. Religious beliefs in the USA are all across the board including on religious fundamentals. People are not going to forsake their religious beliefs. We need to better understand that government is not a means of punishing sin or driving people out of our society on religious grounds.
i was raised in the catholic church, but until i was about 45 i was an alcoholic, since then in recovery i adopted spirituality and practice it daily, all the rituals and showy things are not needed, i do in a way dislike the religious right for appearing to claim exclusive hegemony of religion
Since you don't believe in the bible according to your other thread, why should a christian care what you think about denominations?
I believe that near death experience accounts are giving common ground to Christians all across the denominational spectrum.
I mostly agree. But 'nondenominational' is a sort of denomination. I don't think its any more reasonable to proclaim 'Catholics got it wrong' or 'Lutherans got it wrong'... no one truly knows. I reckon there's a degree of truth and a degree of manufactured doctrine in everything. The abandonment of doctrine I think is typically going to be a move in the proper direction. God will reveal truth in His own time. He may do it through other humans telling us what they believe. But certainly other humans will try to lead us away from God as well.
I see it this way; if god exists, and truly has behaviors it wants man to obey, it wouldn't just reveal the data to a handful of people thousands of years ago. If it knows all, it knows damned well that when humans play telephone, the message gets completely lost by person 4. So, if there are behaviors that are 100% abhorrent, like missing mass or eating cheese on a burger or praying towards Mecca five times a day, it would pop in from generation to generation to clarify things. It would be completely unfair to make wearing cotton and leather a mortal sin and not clarify the point so everyone is damned sure. If people who claim belief truly believed that they could face eternal damnation for going against god's wishes, than they would never, and I mean never, do the behaviors that are disgusting to most. One cannot truly be a man of faith while forcing kids to pose naked so he can masturbate to those pictures. See what I mean?
Well, I would agree that division isn't shrinking. But, I wouldn't agree that the division of denominations is coming from "other humans". We're continuing to see well known denominations of Christianity dividing along lines of religious belief. This may not be frequent, but I would argue that it is more frequent than established denominations of Christianity actually becoming unified. Also, we're not seeing movement toward the Abrahamic faiths coming together - let alone the numerous religions not of Abrahamic origin.
Mine too..... but she attempted to strange me..... which was actually a good way to warn me of what the future held for us...... that would have been late in either 1990 or 1991.... if I remember correctly...... So I knew that she would be back with a baseball bat... knife.... or gun...... when I would be sleeping..... so I got out of there....and got a lawyer and legally separated from her!
