Christopher Hitchens, Stop Claiming You are Persecuted

I would have to agree.....Hitchens is a disgrace to athiests.....All he ever does is run his mouth about people who are not athiests.....

 

Then surely you must agree that any claims of Christian persecution are pure nonsense, since Atheists have faced far more than Christians have ever thought about facing.

That doesn't stop an atheist from getting killed in Iran.

Only because the whack job ultra-Christian preachers in Africa haven't heard of him.

I'll bet you he did hire some protection after the publication of some of his books.

Just like pretty much anyone not on a terrorist watch list. That's like getting a free drink at an open bar. Being free to travel in the western world is basically assumed to be the case unless you make an ass of yourself or try to kill people.

You must live under a rock if you think that. Hitchens is an adult with the money and fame to avoid the problems of less influential atheists. And he doesn't live in the parts of the western world that are intolerant towards atheists.

If you think Christians have it bad in the Muslim world compared to atheists, you're absolutely nuts. At least Christianity isn't an immediate crime worthy of death like atheism is in those countries.

Yet unorganized Christians can worship what they want at home, and visiting Christians aren't subjected to arrest or murder.

You seriously think Christians have it worse than atheists in Muslim countries? What the hell are you smoking?

 

By the way, I never said Christopher Hitchens claimed to be persecuted.

Someone changed the title of my thread.

Please change it back, the current thread title is inaccurate and stupid.

Thank you.

 

Seems apt.

 

My thread has been sabotaged. I want it fixed.

 

It's the end of the world as we know it.

 

... and I feel fine.

 

Ask Xenu to fix it.

 

Don't see why the name change is such an issue. The OP mentions Hitchins much more than atheists, and as far as I know, his arguments don't stretch further than Hitchins either.

Worst case scenario, we get one or two people in here who haven't read the OP and go on about Hitchens instead of atheists. Since that's what the OP did anyway, I don't see a problem, at least not one big enough to cause radio silence.

 

I never said Christopher Hitchens claimed to be persecuted.

I don't know if he ever made this claim.

The change in the title gives people the false impression that I made this false statement which I did not.

It is very unjust to have a false statement credited to me and I don't know why the Moderators are allowing it.

 

I don't know if atheists have made that claim either. Your OP just goes on about Hitchens this and Hitchens that as if he was somehow representing atheism. Heck, even Anne Frank has made millions (so to speak), that doesn't mean that Jews weren't persecuted.

I can live with the fact that you didn't make the statement and that someone else changed the title, I saw it before it was changed.

I'm sure there are atheists out there who claim to be persecuted. And a small percentage of those might actually be persecuted because of their atheism, but that's a vanishingly small percentage of atheists and/or the world to care about to any greater extent.

 

I'm entirely with Blackroot on the title change.

I happen to agree that his original title was flawed and it's that I responded to. I've no doubt he will stand by his title and that's what the discussion should be about.

It's totally inappropriate for a moderator (I assume) to change the content of someone's post without any kind of comment or explanation. If something breaks the rules, they should remove it (preferably with a comment pointing out that they have done so but to replace it with something that carries and entirely different meaning (even if they think that's what the poster meant) is simply wrong.

What's the point of responding to any posts here if we have no idea if a moderator hasn't come along and completely altered the meaning of it? How often does this happen in ways that are less obvious?

 

Oh, I agree that people shouldn't be changing titles, but I don't see that as a reason to go away and mope until someone important reads this rapidly dying thread. I assume there is a thread in the feedback forum already about this, let's let that thread deal with the change of title and this one be about what this thread is supposed to be about.

 

Blackrock

Just watch Hitchens here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axHR8AOxxkc

And tell me you aren't impressed.Especially by his last line.

 

You cannot convince people who are religious that they are not actually religious nor can you convince the very ignorant that they are actually ignorant. Atheists who claim to have been atheists have no idea what being an atheist means nor do they understand the concept of the nonsense of free will, beginnings and endings, the two-value value system so dominant in the world today, or their own idiocy of non-physical constructs. It is no wonder that the world is full of chaos.

 

Yeah and we owe it all to that corrupted man made thing they call religion. Man needs to find another excuse for having to die other than religion.