Church Leaders, Harrison Butker Slam Drag Parody Of Last Supper At Olympics

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  1. AKS

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    Obviously, eh? You show those 3 images to an unbiased person and ask which two resemble each other the most and 99 out of 100 would say the freak show and last supper.
     
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    bullshit. I mean complete and utter bullshit.
     
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    The how is obvious and has already been discussed. As to the why, I have no clue. Maybe they were trying to say that christians should be more inclusive of gays? Or maybe the intent was to mock a la queer trans nuns at a baseball game. If it was the former, I dont personally have a problem with it. It would have been a dumb and infinitely tone deaf decision but I'm not offended. If the reason was the latter (or something along those lines) I am offended.
     
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    @yardmeat @Pro_Line_FL Well well well. Speaking of facts and your feelings:

    https://nypost.com/2024/07/30/sport...-ceremony-drag-show-was-based-on-last-supper/

    "A Paris 2024 Olympics spokesperson admitted the controversial drag show version of “The Last Supper” seen in Friday’s opening ceremony was indeed inspired by the iconic da Vinci mural — despite attempting to vehemently deny it following fierce backlash.

    “Thomas Jolly took inspiration from Leonardo da Vinci’s famous painting to create the setting,” an Olympics spokesperson admitted to The Post in a statement on Saturday, referring to the opening ceremony creative director.

    “He is not the first artist to make a reference to what is a world-famous work of art. From Andy Warhol to ‘The Simpsons,’ many have done it before him,” the statement continued."

    Damn I love being right. I mean I ****ing love being right.
     
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    And in other news: the sea is wet and people are dumb as hell.
     
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    Greek Mythology 101.
     
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    Dionysus isn't depicted in The Last Supper. And Jesus does not have a halo in The Last Supper. Dionysus is depicted in the other work of art, and Apollo does have a halo. 99 out of 100 people probably don't even know who Dionysus is, but their historical ignorance isn't my problem.
     
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    It really hasn't, and that's my point. A handful of people have made a noisy fuss about it because they personally didn't like it for some reason and then unilaterally declared it was an insult to Christianity (and some of them aren't even Christian themselves). As you hint at yourself, the personal objections relate to the fact some of the performers were in drag and some related assumptions about homosexuality with no actual basis (beyond what would apply to all of the male dancers and models involved in the ceremony ;) ).

    The question remains, why a depiction of The Last Supper (assuming that's what it was) is an insult to Christianity? In itself, it wasn't especially obscene or offensive; if it didn't have the Christian link, it would have passed without comment so it has to be something more specific than that.
     
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    lol why would it be problematic that a group of people, who inherently represent the antithesis of Christian, are performing a depiction of a sacred moment within the Christian religion? A religion which, if you asked the performers, they would UNANIMOUSLY say they detest. While they perform in garb which they KNOW will be offensive to Christians.

    Is that a serious question?
     
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    I notice you didn't respond to my post lol
     
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    I specifically did. Let me know what you need me to elucidate about my post.
     
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    No you specifically did not. Post #229
     
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    And that's precisely why Dionysus wasn't played by any of the freaks. Try to keep up.
     
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    Again, you're making assumptions about the performers and their motivations that isn't in evidence. You've jumped on a bandwagon that is telling you to be offended and you're now retrofitting justification for that offense in your own mind.

    Just stop and think for yourself for a moment. What exactly do you know about them that makes them the "antithesis of Christian"?
     
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    The people who should be offended are the followers of the ancient Greek Hellenistic religion. The bearded figure with the grape vine crown was of the Greek god Dionysus, and not Jesus

    It’s a reference to the ancient civilization that invented the Olympics, and the god of festivities
     
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    here is history lesson . the right/conservative killed the founder of Christianity , the son of God. that is how it all started for Christian. now all of a sudden, they think no one should mock Christianity. time to read the religion they claim to practice.
     
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    Christian should rejoice and thank God when they are mocked and persecuted. The true Christian who read Bible, they know this simple truth. Problem is the so-called Christian who never read Bible think they need to fight back and stand up for their faith.
     
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    It was described as the scene from the Last Supper in the pre-broadcast announcement.
     
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    They're sinners who refuse to repent. That is the antithesis of a Christian.
     
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    I'm more of the crusader type of Christian myself.

    If I have to go to hell for the defense of my family and or my God then I will joyfully do so.

    That is the hill I will happily set my defenses and die upon.
     
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    Well thank God that we have someone like you to judge them. I don't know where they would be without you.
     
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    How do you know they're sinners or that they don't repent? And even if they were, how would that make them any different to pretty much all non-Christians and quite a lot of Christians too?

    Also, Mathew 7:1-5. :cool:
     
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    Judging refers to telling someone they're going to hell. Telling someone they're a sinner because they sin and refuse to repent is not judgment. It's just fact. It is in fact our responsibility to point out sin.

    And they're homosexuals who continue to live in their sin of homosexuality without repenting.

    It doesn't make them different than non-Christians. But most non-Christians aren't up there making a mockery of Christianity on a public stage. And then lie about it when they get called out for it.
     
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    How do you know any of the performers are (practicing) homosexuals and/or haven't (or won't) repent?

    We're going in circles now. The reason given for it being a "mockery" of Christianity was because they're the "antithesis of Christian" but now you're saying the only reason they're different to any other non-Christian is because of the "mockery".

    You're perfectly entitled to dislike the performance but just because you don't like it (or some random people on social media said they didn't like it and you got carried along with the wave) doesn't mean you can declare it, and all the people involved in it, as mocking Christianity, especially not intentionally.

    Lots of people (including lots of Christians) dislike or disapprove of some depictions, displays or practices of Christianity, such as Jesus with white or black skin, worship of saints, televangelists, megachurches, female clergy, homosexual Christians/clergy, secular fiction based on Christian stories or characters, secular art based on Christian symbology etc. None of that is automatically or implicitly "mockery" of Christianity.
     
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    The primary basis for your argument is that it mocked Jesus. But if the picture you saw was, say Dionysus, and the intent was diversity, would that change your mind or not?

    We have an image, based on the work of Leornado De Vinci with his painting of the Last Supper. We also think of Jesus as someone with pale skin, blue eyes, and blond hair, all based on the image from the movie The Greatest Story Ever Told. We have been, as Christians, engrained with this all of our lives, since childhood.

    Most of what I saw who were drag queens was with the Fashion Show and the Red Carpet. It symbolized the importance of fashion in Paris and where EVERYONE comes to the Paris Fashion show. it is more important thant he NY Fashion Show IMO. But it also represents diversity within the French Republic. That was the whole point and why some religious people often get too emotional for soemthing that they are trying to see and what what they are seeing.
     

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