Clarence Thomas: Supreme Court Will Soon Have to Address Tech Censorship

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  1. Darth Gravus

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    Define "fair" and what consequences do you think they should face for running their business as they see fit?
     
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    Fair in this case would mean bipartisan or, better, no partisanship at all. I think a company management that drags its company into the gutter of politics should be fired. I'm not questioning their right to run their business as they see fit. I am suggesting that hurting their company purposefully should get them fired.
     
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    I am not sure you can show that being partisan hurts a company.

    Take FB for example. All of my extended family are Trump supporting rightwing types. They all cried and whined about what FB did to Trump and a few of them posted their new parler IDs on FB for people to see since they were going to leave FB. Yet every single one of them is still on FB posting just as much if not more than ever.
     
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    I'm sure it can't help. Dragging one's company into politics can and does lose business. The company management can have all the partisanship they want and vote any way they want to vote. To do it in the name of the company is incompetence.

    Look at what I said just above. They aren't dragging their companies into politics. I'm not talking about rights and freedom. I'm talking about common sense. It goes both ways. I have said the same thing about the My Pillow man. At least his company is private so he only hurts himself and his employees.
     
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    Can you show any data that doing so hurts a company sales? I would say the My Pillow guy gained a ton of sales with his support of Trump before he went totally off the deep end. Companies like Ben and Jerrys have made politics part of their company identify since its start

    So FB banning Trump is not about polotics?
     
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    Yes and I have never tasted their product for that very reason. I have no idea about My Pillow's sales. It is a private company. I know that the smart move is for a company to be apolitical. There is no benefit to angering potential customers. Common sense should tell you that.

    Purely about politics. I was referring to your extended family.
     
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    If you anger fewer than you bring in, then it is a net win. I know people that eat B&J just because of their politics.

    And my point with bringing them up is that FB being political does not seem to be harming them, even the ones they are pissing off are still using it.
     
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    You need to apply common sense. If you don't then you have little control over what you think is right or wrong. Just give what I said some thought.
     
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    The problem is that what you see as common sense is not backed up by data. I am data driven, not feeling driven.

    A company like B&Js has made their mark being political, even naming their ice cream in political ways. This has served them well and is arguably the only reason they are a national brand. There are thousands of regional ice creams that never make it big, many are just as good as B&Js.

    When Twitter dropped Trump their stock took a dive and people were all over it as proof they made a mistake....yet less than a week later it was back above where it had been and has been doing pretty well since then.

    Even Dick's sporting goods making the political decision to stop gun sales did not really hurt them all that much, if at all.
     
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    Since you haven't provided any data then it is obvious that you are also feeling driven.

    I praise their entrepreneurial success. I always love to see business people succeed. But I don't buy their Ice cream.

    No doubt. My common sense tells me that Twitter is a bit addictive to those that use it. It makes no sense to me to spend time reading what celebrities think but a lot of people do. I praise Twitter's success as well. I don't use it.

    Dick's didn't drag itself into politics. Other people did. They made a business decision for whatever reason. Not the same thing as MLB for instance.
     
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    And this is where your "common sense" betrays you. YOU are not the universe of potential ice cream consumers, social media subscribers, or baseball fans. YOU may not even be representative ffs! My guess is that FB will not be knocking on your door for business advice.
     
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    Hmmm? Don't you consider professional sports as big business?
     
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    Of course. Why do you ask?
     
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    Perhaps I misunderstood your argument? Dick's made a business decision. What decision did MLB make, which you believe differed from Dick's?
     
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    What are talking about.? You don't think I can buy whichever ice cream I want to buy? I can't speak for myself without someone thinking I speak for all of humanity. Please explain your post.
     
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    Dick didn't make it as a public corporate political partisan decision. At least I think that is true. MLB did.
     
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    You are conflating business strategy with the way YOU feel. Just because something p*sses you off does not make it bad policy. The fact is you don't have a fraction of the information that goes into why businesses do what they do. So stop pretending like you know more than the highly intelligent, highly qualified people making the decisions. You don't.
     
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