Climate alarmists lie, lie again, and people keep buying into it.

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Below are two pics from NOAA showing there’s more ice in Antarctica three days ago than there was in 1979 and the Twitter post has direct links to their site.

    So how can this be? Does global warming induced heat generate more ice or does it make it go south for the winter? Will the new global warming hoax include the planet being covered with new glaciers? And where is all the promised ocean front property in Kentucky now that coastal cities are supposed to be under water?

    During the last few decades, the two largest hoaxes, media coverups and outright lies are the planet faces an existential threat from global warming, and Biden is as sharp as a tack while running circles around his staff. Both have been shown to be bogus, scams and lies in order to gain wealth for special people like Al Gore or to obtain power.

    The trillions of $$$ spent on global warming is a money making scam that wouldn’t work if people weren’t so gullible and easily brainwashed.

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    Climate change is the biggest and most expensive grift in history. In the 1970's they called it Global Cooling. In the 1980's and 1990's it was Global Warming. In 2000 it was called Climate Change. And now they call it Climate Emergency, Climate Catastrophe, or whatever else they need to keep the money, laws, and restrictions coming in.
     
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    The problem is in the interpretation of the data. Sea level rise is a slow process and also irreversible. The effects will become more apparent over time. Right now sea level rise seems to be increasing by only .13 inches per year but that will compound as the earth warms. But if the Gulf stream stops ain't no tellin how cold Britain will get in the winter.
     
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    And after 10 years the rise will only be 1.3 inches. After a hundred years at the current rate not allowing for an increase in additional water from increase melting? 13 inches is a safe min baseline but most likely more.
     
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    I have wondered for quite a while what the effect of global greening would be on a warming planet. Places like Antarctica growing vegetation and eating carbon. And now I am wondering what is under all that ice.
     
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    First thing I noticed is that this is SEA ICE! :roll:

    and it is an X-cretion!
     
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    Some people want the government to spank them harder Daddy.

    So they support this climate alarmism that is used as a mask to conceal their obvious power grab to try to micromanage every aspect of human existence.

    It is a foolish notion to think that the government can somehow keep you safe and save the world
     
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    One.
    Just one.
     
  9. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so the ice is expanding and not just on land where it doesn't have to fight salt water.

    And you guys loved Twitter until the censorship went away. Aren't you interested in hearing both sides of an issue, of is your side of an issue the only side you want to hear? Keep in mind Harris, Biden, AOC and blm all have and use their Twitter accounts.
     
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    The problem is the interpretation of the data. Sea level rise is a slow process. The rate of sea level rise is 0.13 inches a year but irreversible. It is barely noticable at this rate , but it will increase. Over time it will add up. Even at the current rate it is a rise of 13 inches over a hundred year period. Y'all seem to think a system as large as earth changes over night. It takes time.
     
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    While trying to wrap my head around this, the only way for sea levels to rise is if land ice melts faster than it's reconstituted. Melting sea ice wouldn't change a thing just like when the ice in a Big Gulp melts the cup doesn't over flow. I think if sea ice is expanding, so is land ice - or at least that land ice shouldn't be melting.

    What the left needs to remember is much of North America was once covered by a glacier, the Finger Lakes in New York were carved out by glaciers, and the boulders in NYC's central park were dragged there by glaciers. Heck, in the mountains above El Paso, which is no where near an ocean, fossils of sea life have been found. The world changes, albeit very slowly.
     
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    "The findings do not reflect changes in Antarctica’s total ice mass, which has also been declining, Andreasen said. According to NASA, Antarctica’s grounded ice sheet has been losing around 140 gigatonnes of ice mass per year since 2002. The Antarctic ice sheet covers around 14 million square kilometers, according to the British Antarctic Survey. Ice shelves’ net gain of 661 gigatonnes of ice mass between 2009 and 2019 does not negate the net loss, opens new tab of 2,440 gigatonnes of ice mass between 2002 and 2024. Eric Rignot, professor of Earth system science at the University of California, Irvine, and a senior research scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who wasn’t involved in the study, said: “This questioning of Antarctica mass loss from social media is simply false. The information they use is based on elements taken out of their context combined with unjustifiable statements.”

    Fact Check: Short-term ice shelf gains do not negate Antarctic ice mass declines | Reuters
     
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