Climate sensitivity

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Dingo, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. Poor Debater

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    Must be embarrassing for you, though.
     
  2. Poptech

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    That does not even make any sense.
     
  3. Poor Debater

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    I mean, instead of winning the debate with actual evidence and argument, here you've been reduced to ad-hominem fun-making of my screen name instead. You can't even defeat a poor debater by legitimate means. Must be embarrassing for you.
     
  4. Poptech

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    I already did. So you actually do not know what a strawman argument is, fascinating.
     
  5. jc456

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    So he answered your strawman post, and still no answer from you for his question. hmmm...It makes me question the reason why you're actually arguing this. Look, I understand the science and all of that, but sometimes evidence is needed. You don't seem to care. Just sayin.
     
  6. jc456

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    So where is your evidence? you write all these silly posts and yet have no evidence. NONE. I've been asking and you've been denying!!!!!
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People don't need evidence when they have belief.
     
  8. bobgnote

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    When did RWNJ-ramble-athletes get into 'science?'

    Announce this, when you find one such dented shut-in, who joined a club, or something.
     
  9. MannieD

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    here ya go
    climate_authors_table_
    Little lop-sided
     
  10. Hoosier8

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    Why would any scientist sign any declaration. That is not science yet some of those listed as contributors to AR4 (7 years ago) like Judith Curry are declared to be "deniers" by GW advocates because they have not signed onto the very political catastrophic global warming declarations by a few.
     
  11. Poptech

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    Still nothing,

    How many members of those scientific organizations signed a position statement on climate changed?
     
  12. Poor Debater

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    I'm still betting it's greater than the number authors on your list who've signed the Oregon Petition.
     
  13. Poptech

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    At least we know you believe in fairy tales,

    How many members of those scientific organizations signed a position statement on climate changed?
     
  14. MannieD

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    Nice dishonest tactic! Ask for something that does not exist because they don't ask their members for signatures
    How about 1000+ signatures from the UK Science community?
    And this was from 2009. I'll bet the list would be even longer today.
     
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    Peer-reviewed paper that confirms what many here have stated
    Institutionalizing delay: foundation funding and the creation of U.S. climate change counter-movement organizations

    Robert J. Brulle

     
  16. MannieD

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    For PT.
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    Sums up the denier stance fairly well
     
  17. Dingo

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    There are advantages to being a denialist. You never have to engage reality. It also gets you lots of attention and relieves you of any responsibility.
     
  18. Poptech

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    What is dishonest is presenting those scientific organizations as a "consensus" argument based on the sole signature of the president of that organization or a handful of council members who released a position statement. If the following information cannot be provided then the tens of thousands of those organizations scientific member's position on climate change is unknown,

    How many members of those scientific organizations signed a position statement on climate changed?

    In which case your 1000+ signatures does not beat 31,000+ signatures.
     
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    Pot meet Kettle. You have that backwards, by childishly labeling scientists that have not signed onto catastrophic global warming you can then dismiss them and never have to consider any of the uncomfortable truths about the current politically motivated meme.
     
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    But your 31000 signatures are mostly non-scientists. In fact, if the climate authors you yourself have chosen for your list, only 3 have signed the Oregon Petition.

    So among real scientists it's 1000 for us, 3 for you. Even after you selected the scientists on your side.
     
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    Interesting!
    Of the roughly 1150 authors of papers on Poptech's list, three have signed the Oregon Petition.
    Of the roughly 1150 authors of papers on Poptech's list, thirteen have signed UK Science Community statement.

    Thus, there are about four times as many convinced scientists in the UK alone than there are skeptical scientists in the whole world.

    Even when skeptical Poptech himself selects the scientists.

    And that's certainly an underestimate, as I did not go through and look up all the et al.'s on Poptech's list.
     
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    Do you even know what the Oregon petition stated? Did the Oregon Petition state that humans, via co2 have no influence on climate? Or was the Oregon petition a stance on a global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto?
     
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    Poll Americans, on whether the Sun rotates, around the Earth, and some sample will come up, with a significant section, of tardies, in the 'of-course' mode, when they were asked.

    Flat-earth mentality is getting pitched, like it's MLB-season, so the dented can population wants to be on some team, and they are constantly trying out. They won't get anywhere. They will only prove humans have devolved, so most cannot play real baseball, and they shouldn't try.

    But there's no baseball, for derps. The ball is round. The Earth is a geoid. Spamming derp won't make a good ballgame.

    There are no bloody SCIENTISTS, who don't know the Earth is warming and climate is changing and a mass extinction is caused, by humans.

    Who is THAT stupid is not a damn scientist, eh?
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    More tripe. You certainly don't understand science.
     

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