Clinton vs Sanders

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  1. IranianStudent1

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    Hi.
    Why do ppeple vote for Clinton so much? She is not in spirit of democracy.
     
  2. Crossedtoes

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    Oy, vey. Iranians coming here and voting for socialists. Who'da thunk it?

    Look, I'm not out to get anybody-- I welcome anyone with open arms. But damn, the foundation of this society is individual rights. That's how we became so wealthy. If you don't believe that, then honestly you don't belong here. :|

    That doesn't mean we need to go register people or deport you, but just understand..
     
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    guttermouth Banned

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    because she has a vagina and there is no iq test required to vote
     
  4. IranianStudent1

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    I am in no position to vote. I was not here for more than 2.25 months running, but the politics of US does concern the rest of the world.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Iranians have no business telling us who to vote for.

    try a little democracy in your country, first

    and stop persecuting women, religious minorities, gays, etc..
     
  6. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We really do not know that a lot of people are. The voting totals are being hid by the Democratic Party Leaders who want Clinton as their nominee. It is not an open process and in that you are right, it is not in the spirit of democracy. The truth is the Democratic Party leaders back in 2012 decided Clinton would be their nominee for 2016 and they are in the process of making sure that happens.
     
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    Mindless sheep comes to mind .
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    There's a rather large political machine behind her. As with most countries, if you have a lot of money to throw around for ads and have a lot of powerful connections in media, business, and government, you tend to be able to market yourself effectively.
     
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    That has to be how Palin got to be governess of Alaska....
     
  10. IranianStudent1

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    If you google their delegate count, you can see. Sanders apparently enjoys great popularity among the youth in CA.
    Iranians hate Clinton for sanctions. They killed people, who didn't have access to necessary medication.
     
  11. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clinton has around 500 super delegates which have nothing to do with the voting. They are Democratic party leaders and elected officials who are free agents. In other words they are free to support whomever they want regardless of how people vote in their state. Since the party leaders want Clinton, these super delegates will support Clinton and not Sanders even if the people voted for Sanders. Without the super delegates Clinton's lead is more like 500-400 than the 1052-427 which includes the super delegates.
     
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    Wow, that is one giant whopper of a misrepresentation.
     
  13. IranianStudent1

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    What makes them Super,
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many people cant admit their ideology is wrong and therefore double down and look the other way over things like a candidate who let four fellow Americans die, lied to us about it, kept our govt data in insecure locations and made numerous comments about women over the years.

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    Are you sure about that?
     
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    There are 712 of these super delegates. 712 who will support whomever they want and are not answerable to any state vote. The voters of a state could vote for Sanders to be the Democratic nominee, but the super delegates from that state can ignore the vote and support Clinton and cast their delegate vote for Clinton regardless of whom the people of their state voted for.

    I like the term free agents. Each state when it comes to the Democrats have so many delegates they award via the vote and so many delegates that are free agents or super delegates. This way the Democratic Party Leaders can control whom will get their nomination.
     
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    Bernie Sanders is not a democrat he is a registered independent
    And Hillary Clinton is winning in the primaries because she is the only democrat running


    Many people do not understand that this is the primaries to decide who the major parties which are private organizations will support with money and campaign workers

    The democratic party extends to certain party leaders and elected officials the status of delegate they are to prevent someone coming along and hijacking the party and distorting what the democratic party stands for

    Unfortunately the Republican Party has allowed a national socialist to hijack the Republican Party
     
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    She has probably helped spread democracy around the world more than any other person in the past decade.
     
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    She won New York, but she lost her last primary race. She is winning this one, but with low turn-outs. She has never demonstrated strong broad appeal. She is fat, dishonest, corrupt and lies, even about lying.

    FBI Investigating if Hillary Shared Her Passwords with Staff, Giving Unauthorized Persons Direct Access to Classified Material

    The FBI is investigating whether computer passwords were shared among Hillary Clinton's close aides to determine how sensitive intelligence "jumped the gap" between the classified systems and Clinton's unsecured personal server, according to an intelligence source familiar with the probe.

    The source emphasized to Fox News that "if [Clinton] was allowing other people to use her passwords, that is a big problem." The Foreign Service Officers Manual prohibits the sharing of passwords.


    Such passwords are required to access each State Department network. This includes the network for highly classified intelligence -- known as SCI or Sensitive Compartmented Information -- and the unclassified system, known as SBU or Sensitive But Unclassified, according to former State Department employees.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ared-passwords-to-access-classified-info.html[/COLOR]
     
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    through regime change
     
  20. IranianStudent1

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    Probably? She is in favor of overthrowing Iranian PM mosaddegh. How can she be peaceful ?
     
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    This way GOP is more democrat than thhe Democrat party,isn't it?
     
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    Palin probably has a lot nicer one.
     
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    Who cares about the gays, tell them to stop trying to get nuclear weapons
     
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    I strongly doubt she wants to do that. She does sometimes support using military force for regime change in other countries, as we did in Iraq and Libya. She would probably (as Obama does) favor using military force in Syria to remove Assad as well (though with Russia's presence that is not likely to happen)

    In regards to Iran she supported economic sanctions, and still believes that Iran should not be considered an ally of the US. She also once suggested green lighting an Israeli airstrike on Iran's nuclear facilities. However, I strongly doubt she would support any kind of military campaign to remove Iran's PM
     
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    I never mentioned peace. There were some parts of the world that could probably only find peace with a civil war. Clinton's now-public emails continually show her efforts to democratize countries -- which I doubt the GOP wanted to be seen.


    Edit: I'm not saying that "democratizing" is necessarily good. All too often it really means Americanizing or westernizing eastern nations, which is colonialism. Colonialism often brings unrest and oppression.
     

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