CO2 levels higher than any time in last 800,000 years

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    This is such a strange remark I have to address the points made.

    First, we don't use gasoline for only cost. We use it because you carry the energy with you. We use it because it is compact. Were you to translate a tank of 20 gallons of fuel to explosives, it is very large. Normally we see gasoline burning when a person lights some of it on fire. But try setting it off confined into a container. It explodes when the air to fuel mixture is optimum.

    Paint was not cheaper by adding lead. Lead was never put in to make it cheaper.

    Aerosols may have been falsely blamed. The ozone level probably would be the same with or without CFC.

    Asbestos was not cheaper so much as it is better. It is a problem when you flake some off and breathe it in. Did you do that?
     
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    You were the one that brought up cost. All of those things were done because they were the best way to get the job done at the CHEAPEST cost. And then we decided that they were destroying lives. We made a decision to move to alternatives that were , at least at first, more expensive. Costs have come down since they were fully adopted. We will do the same with AGW.
     
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    Still more expensive and proving not to be viable and all based on unproven fear mongering. What do you have against poor people?
     
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    I want to keep poor people alive. Rich people too.
     
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    I was making the point that gasoline is compact and produces staggering amounts of energy. I was not discussing asbestos nor the things you brought up.

    You can't compare the cost of asbestos to climate control by humans.
    Do you honestly still believe humans control climate?

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    You are a fear peddler. No offense intended.
     
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    Humans effect the climate.

    You are a science denier. No offense intended.
     
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    So you buy into the fear that warming, which has always been good for mankind, is a bad thing that must be stopped. What do you have against poor people?
     
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    So you believe that poor people should be devastated by the effects of AGW. What do you have against poor people?
     
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    You mean devastated by the affects of baseless fear mongering. You have bought into it but then, you seem to know so little about history or science that I am not surprised.
     
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    So you think they should all be killed, made homeless, financially destroyed? How heartless!
     
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    Wow, the green agenda needs useful idiots don't they?
     
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    And the Koch Brothers require their lemmings.
     
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    LOL, another one of the green agenda propaganda points. Yep, they need those idiots.
     
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    Better get out there. Someone needs a fillup on pump 2. LOL
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    You're welcome. Have a super day!
     
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    So, you were driving a minivan 400 years ago when there were no glacier where the forest grew? It has become apparent you simply are incapable of understanding much of anything.
     
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    What made the glacier retreat?

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    What made the glacier retreat?

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    What made the glacier retreat?
     
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    Before or after 400 years ago?
     
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    Politicians told you that.

    I can't deny science. I believe in the scientific method.

    Again my problem with the peddlers of fear.

    They don't solve any problems. They talk and talk.

    They peddle their fear over the internet.

    I believe for them it is raw entertainment.

    What I never see from the peddlers of doom is what they do about it. Do they spend their cash to change climate?

    Climate globally is extremely complex. Who can explain El Nino?

    And why is it in the Pacific ocean but no other place?

    Are those living in South America taking boats into the pacific ocean and installing ocean heaters?
     
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    No, it is clear evidence of warming. It is also clear evidence the mini ice age lasted but maybe 400 years.

    Question for you.

    Is it possible in your mind that man can cause glaciers to form?
     
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    You and the rest of the Democrat lemmings love lying about Koch. You make them seem to be one of the oil industry people.

    http://www.kochind.com/companies/

    http://www.kochind.com/fhr/

     
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    Wow. You are a walking billboard for Koch brothers. I think I hit the mother lode. Now we see who pays your bills. LOL
     

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