Cold Case got hot

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  1. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    Anyone who is following Sheriff Joe’s “Cold Case Posse” probably got the news yesterday:

    Sheriff Joe's posse: 'Probable cause' Obama certificate a fraud
    Asking Arpaio to elevate to criminal probe, person of interest ID'd
    Published: 15 hours ago

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joes-posse-probable-cause-obama-certificate-a-fraud/

    You can read the full text by going to the link. The following six videos are included. I’m putting them up for computer savvy folks who will enjoy the detective work. The stuff is fascinating although much of the technical lingo is beyond my grasp:

    PART 1 (Time: 1:38 )​


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ID_KfcmG9gs

    PART 2 (Time: 2:28 )​


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S40WKxKSlHc

    PART 3 (Time: 3:16)​


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    PART 4 (Time: 4:54)​


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    PART 5 (Time: 5:36)​


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jgTZUVpb3dk

    PART 6 (Selcetive Service Card - Time: 3:31)​


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CHAM3hRI8_Y
     
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  2. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Oddly, few news sources are reporting on it. It's like they've all become moonies. Sheriff Arpaio is quite a guy.
     
  3. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    To Injeun: I’m surprised it got any coverage at all! There has been a MSM blackout on everything surrounding the eligibility issue.

    Incidentally, here’s a bit of news that might interest you:


    Investigators now in hunt for forger
    Cold Case Posse briefs county law enforcement on birth certificate case
    Published: 16 hours ago
    by Bob Unruh

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/investigators-now-in-hunt-for-forger/
     
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    Imagine that, World Net Daily posting articles about the birther movement.
     
  5. Diuretic

    Diuretic Well-Known Member

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    This needs to be widely reported and closely followed. The end result of the investigations should be highly publicised.
     
  6. Injeun

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    Facts and findings are troublesome things, eh?
     
  7. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I read that. It defies coincidence. It is one thing to hide an embarrassment(vault birth records). But if true, creating fraudulent birth records, fraudulent draft records, fraudulent social security records, and doctoring the National Archives goes far beyond mere personal shame that we might overlook for the sake of grace and continuity. This is looking like a massive fraud against the USA. And the DNC is right in the middle of it.
     
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    Nope, but if there was really anything to find, the Republicans would have found it years ago. Unless you think the GOP is in on it?
     
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    How's it going? Did they reach a conclusion yet?
     
  10. Flanders

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    I get a kick out of this possibility:

    Say it ain't so, Joe: President Boehner?
    Sheriff Arpaio's investigation opens can of worms in order of succession
    Published: 10 hours ago
    by DREW ZAHN

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/say-it-aint-so-joe-boehner-as-president/

    I’ve always said that Biden is the best job security Hussein can have. I feared that removing Hussein would elevate Biden to the presidency. Now, there is an outside possibility Biden will go, too. That is a beautiful thing to contemplate although the odds are a zillion to one against.

    Parenthetically, I wonder if Hussein’s appointees will also have to pack their balloons? Most notably, Sotomayor and Kagan. What the hell, why wish for a sundae when you can own the ice cream parlor?

    Anyway, here’s a great video connected to Drew Zahn’s article.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p0qjGLiD-AI
     
  11. kk8

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    Guess it would take someone with quite a bit of money to make this all happen....George Soros comes right to mind.

    They created a conspiracy that would make anyone say, it's just not possible....but, yet isn't it?

    Obama, the Manchurian candidate

    In the classic 1962 movie thriller “The Manchurian Candidate,” a man was programmed by communist handlers, and then emerged into the public arena as a hero, with a largely manufactured history, large parts of which were either obscured or changed. Then he was planted into a position of great influence, having been programmed to usher in tremendous change at the appointed time.

    Barack Obama was programmed for years by his atheist, Muslim father, by the communist sex pervert Frank Marshall Davis, by con man Tony Rezko, by domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and others – most of all by black liberation theology screamer Jeremiah Wright. Obama’s resume is largely manufactured. There is a total blackout on his college years. His campaign obscures what he did as a “community organizer.” All his radical associations are denied or minimized. His miserable legislative record (voting “present” over 100 times to avoid taking a stand), his lack of achievement, his radical views and so on – all have been laundered through the magic of public relations into the near-sacred saga of “The One” who has been sent to serve, and to save, America.

    Yet, as I have documented previously, John McCain rendered more genuine service to his country each and every day of those five-and-a-half years he endured in a North Vietnamese prison than Barack Obama has in his entire life.

    In “The Manchurian Candidate,” several war heroes came back to America from abroad. But one of them harbored a dark agenda, lying in wait, secretly, until it could emerge and transform America.

    America has a choice Tuesday between a genuine war hero and a genuine Manchurian candidate.

    Choose well.


    This article is a good read.....

    http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/79411/
     
  12. NavyIC1

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    How can his father be an Athiest AND a Muslim? Way too much tinfoil hat thinking going on in here.
     
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    LOLOLOL.. Do you know what's in the National Archives.. The sheriff and his posse are too stupid to know.
     
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    Obviously a mistake....atheist "mother" is what it should read. Which she was.

    Tell me what this tin foil hat stuff is? Not sure I understand....did you read the entire article? Tell me what is fabricated? I'm not talking about the opinions in the article....I'm talking about the facts. What is not true?
     
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    Sheriff Joe is just trying to take some heat of himself as his department is known for its incompetence, corruption and civil rights violations.

    What other type of Sheriff Department would you have that would declare a document to which they don't have access a forgery?

    And the gullible birthers lap it up.
     
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    Are you trying to say that you cannot find these records in the National Archives? Maybe it's actually you margot that doesn't know what's in there? Do you think? Is it possible that you don't know something??:omg:
     
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    I am saying they are lying their butts off.

    US citizens arriving in the US don't have their comings and going recorded in the National Archives.. The National Archives are about IMMIGRATION and date back to 1820.

    And, more for those morons... you can't apply for naturalized US citizenship until age 18.
     
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    Margot...I'm sorry but you are wrong on this one!

    Immigration Reference Reports
    Immigration records document the arrival of aliens and return of U.S. citizens to the United States from foreign ports from 1820 to the early 1980s. Before then, individual ports compiled their own records, which are not available at the National Archives. The U.S. Customs Service maintained inbound passenger and crew lists from 1820 to 1890. In 1891, the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) controlled entry into the United States. Starting in 1895, immigration officials tracked border crossings from Canada as well, and from Mexico around 1903. Immigration Reference Reports describe research strategies for some of the more frequent topics and records relating to immigration, including the arrival of specific ethnic groups such as the Irish and Chinese, New York passenger arrivals, and accessioned records for later 20th century immigration.

    http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/reference-reports.html
     
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    Click on the title to view a PDF version of the reference report.

    Immigrants Arriving at the Port of New York: Records of the U.S. Customs Service, 1820-1897
    Immigrants Arriving at the Port of New York: Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), 1897-1957
    Chinese Immigration into the Port of San Francisco, 1882-1957
    Irish Ship Arrivals at the Port of New York During the Potato Famine, 1846-1851
    Immigration into the District of Columbia: The Ports of Alexandria (1820-1865) and Georgetown (1820-1821)
    Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) Accessioned Microfilm
    Missing INS Passenger Arrival Records, 1945-1954
     
  20. toddwv

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    Wow, surprise surprise.

    Sheriff Arpaio's "investigator" is going to get a cut of book profits based on the results of his "investigation".

    Lol... no conflict of interest there.
     
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    To kk8: Does anyone know what Sandy Berger has been doing lately?
     
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    To toddwv: Sheriff Joe did not manufacture the facts in this article:

    March 5, 2012
    Time for New Look at 2008 Obama Passport Breach
    By Jack Cashill

    Among the unexpected findings of the Sheriff Arpaio cold case was this one:

    Records of Immigration and Naturalization Service cards filled out by airplane passengers arriving on international flights originating outside the United States in the month of August 1961, examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. are missing records for the week of President Obama's birth, including the dates Aug. 1, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961.

    This revelation evoked memories of one of the great underreported stories of the 2008 campaign: the multiple breaches of the presidential candidates' passport records in March of that year. In one its more egregiously dishonest moments, the Washington Post headlined the story on March 22, "Rice Apologizes For Breach of Passport Data; Employees Looked at Files On Obama, Clinton, McCain."

    The "Rice" in question is Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. The offended party in the Post story was Barack Obama. He told reporters that he expected "a full and thorough investigation," one that "should be done in conjunction with those congressional committees that have oversight function so it's not simply an internal matter."

    It is not until the thirteenth paragraph of the Post story that the reader learns that of one of the three contract employees caught in the act worked for the Analysis Corporation, the CEO of which was John Brennan, a 25-year CIA veteran. The Post does report that Brennan donated $2,300 to the Obama campaign but suggests no deeper tie. This information is offset by the revelation that the other two culpable contract employees worked for Stanley Inc., whose CEO Philip Nolan contributed $1,000 to the Clinton campaign.

    Stanley, however, had been handling passport work for 15 years and had just been awarded a five-year, $570-million contract. The company had no reason to play favorites in the 2008 campaign. It promptly fired the two employees, neither of whom was likely working at the directive of Nolan or of the Clinton campaign.

    Unlike Stanley Inc., a huge government contractor listed on the New York Stock Exchange, Analysis Corp. had fewer than 100 employees, and its one culpable employee escaped discipline. The Post article tells us only that "his or her employment status is under review."

    Nor was Brennan a casual donor to the Obama campaign. To its credit, CNN Politics saw the real news angle in the passport scandal: "Chief of firm involved in breach is Obama adviser." As CNN reported, also on March 22, Brennan "advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues." He had even briefed the media on behalf of the campaign early in the month.

    After its initial article on the passport breach, the Post said not a single word about the incident or Brennan's connection to it. Incredibly, the Post remained mute on the subject even in its 1,300-word front-page article of January 9, 2009, "Obama Taps CIA Veteran As Adviser On Terror; Brennan Has Drawn Fire on Interrogations." The fact that an employee of Obama's new counterterrorism adviser had breached Obama's passport files just months earlier held no interest for the Post's allegedly nonpartisan editors.

    A sidebar that emerged at the same time was the murder in Washington on April 18, 2008 of a fellow named Leiutenant (no misspelling) Quarles Harris. He had earlier been apprehended for taking information off passport applications to procure fraudulent credit cards. It is highly unlikely that this murder had any connection to the passport breach.

    What likely did have a connection was Obama's strategic jab at the two people who stood between him and the White House at an April 2008 fundraiser in San Francisco. "Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain," said the overconfident candidate.

    Obama took particular aim at Hillary Clinton. He countered her boast of having met leaders from 80 foreign countries with his real-world experience in several key outposts.

    "I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college," said Obama in the way of illustration. "I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic -- Obama has always had problems with noun-verb agreement] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."

    This declaration took ABC reporter Jake Tapper by surprise. He thought it odd that he had not heard of this trip, especially "given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign." Indeed, Obama had introduced the general subject of Pakistan as early as Aug. 1, 2007. As Tapper observed at the time, Obama talked about U. S. Pakistan policy as a way of challenging Hillary's perceived strength on foreign affairs.

    Yet despite the strategic edge his personal Pakistan experience might have given him, Obama failed to mention his Pakistan adventure in that August 2007 speech or for the next eight months.

    Had Tapper inquired further, he would have learned that Obama did not mention the Pakistan visit in either of his books, the 1995 Dreams From My Father or the 2006 Audacity of Hope. Given that Obama used both of those books, especially Audacity, to emphasize his superior knowledge of the larger world, the omission of his Pakistan experience perplexes.

    When Tapper asked the Obama campaign staff about the trip, they described it as a casual stopover to visit friends on the tail end of a trip to visit his mother and sister in Indonesia. This, of course, would make a real reporter question why Obama had remained mum about the subject, at least until after his passport file had been accessed by at least one obvious sympathizer -- and possibly three.

    Obama's most serious biographer, David Remnick, sheds little light on Obama's motives for going to Pakistan and none for staying quiet about it. In The Bridge, Remnick tells how Obama first visits his friends Hamid and Chandoo in Pakistan during Ramadan "and then to Indonesia to see his mother and Maya" -- a three-week trip in all. In 1981, Ramadan began on July 3 and ran for a lunar month. Remnick is likewise mum on whether the Ramadan timing was purposeful.

    In A Singular Woman, Janny Scott's biography of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, Scott has Obama circling the world in the opposite direction and in a different time frame.

    Scott writes of summer 1981, "Barry spent July in Jakarta, then went to Pakistan to visit a friend from Occidental [College] on his way back to the United States."

    As confirmation, Scott includes a letter purportedly written in May 1981 to Dunham's employers at the Ford Foundation: "I would like to use my educational travel for dependent children to have my son, Barry, come out to visit us." I say "purportedly" because Scott provides no detail at all of Obama's 1981 Indonesian visit. She does, however, provide eyewitness testimony of a 1983 visit to Indonesia by Obama.

    This seemingly gratuitous insertion of the 1981 letter to the Ford Foundation serves two purposes: it confirms the Indonesian leg of the trip, and it explains the financing behind it. It would not overly matter that Scott, a New York Times reporter, and Remnick, the editor of the New Yorker, would tell conflicting stories about this Asian junket were it routine.

    But it was not. At the time they were writing, each knew the trip was controversial. Although Scott gives no hint of the controversy, Remnick does. He quotes an old girlfriend of Chandoo, who accuses Fox News of twisting the Pakistan visit "into something awful." What made the trip controversial was not so much what Obama did once he got to Pakistan, but how he got there. In 1981, Pakistan was not an easy or likely destination for an American tourist.

    This prompted some noise in the blogosphere that Obama could not have traveled to Pakistan as an American citizen. Quick to Obama's defense as always, FactCheck.org made the valid case that American citizens could travel to Pakistan in 1981 and thus dismissed the travel issue as "more 'Birther' nonsense."

    The fact that Obama could have traveled to Pakistan on an American passport, however, does not mean that he did. Not surprisingly, FactCheck fails to mention the variable that prompted the controversy in the first place -- namely, Obama's curious silence about the trip until April 2008. Nor, of course, does FactCheck mention the event that took place just weeks before Obama's first mention of the Pakistan visit -- namely, the passport breach. True to form, the word "passport" does not even appear in Remnick's 2010 book.

    It remains to be seen whether Sheriff Arpaio and his posse will get to the bottom of Passportgate, but their effort should be applauded. The mainstream's media's beef that Obama's background has been "thoroughly vetted" and that the various "conspiracy theories" about his origins have already been debunked is just junk disinformation on top of its earlier junk misinformation.

    Basta! Breitbart lives!

    http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...r_new_look_at_2008_obama_passport_breach.html
     
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    Americans were not barred from visiting Pakistan.. The travel warning is still available.. Look it up by date.

    It was about visa issues and errors that might cause a delay at the Airport.
     
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    “Before traveling to Pakistan, American Citizens should be aware of the following updated visa requirements: 30 day visas are available at Pakistani airports for tourists only. As these visas are rarely extended beyond the 30 day time per visa. Tourists planning to stay longer should secure visas before coming to Pakistan. Any traveler coming into Pakistan overland from India must repeat must have a valid visa, as 30 day visas are not repeat not issued at the overland border crossing point at Wagha.”

    US State Department Travel Advisory for Pakistan in 1981, No. 81-33A
     
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    So what????
     

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